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Driver involved in crash with church bus, killing 13, was 20-year-old former football player
MY SA ^ | 3/30/17 | Caleb Downs

Posted on 03/30/2017 8:29:24 PM PDT by Timpanagos1

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To: Timpanagos1

Well...when I was 20 years old, I once stayed up for 72 hours straight, working a night shift in the military, driving in my car nonstop from Florida to New England to go home on leave, then partying all day and going out on a date that night, and driving 50 miles home at 0200.

I feel asleep at the wheel with no warning and awoke as my car was tearing through a grass median on an interstate.

I could have killed that girl in the car, other people on the road, or myself. It was stupid, and I did learn from it.


41 posted on 03/31/2017 4:38:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: 21twelve

Another time as a 20 year old, I was trying to make the New England to Florida run in one drive after not enough sleep, I was weaving in my lane down in Virginia, and I stopped to get a cup of coffee, and as I was walking in at a truck stop, a trucker said “Are you driving that little yellow sports car? If you are, you should get some coffee or pull off for a while.” It was good advice, but I was too young and stupid to hear it.

Well, the coffee didn’t help. I got back on the highway, and just a few miles down the road again, I was starting to nod.

I was in the left hand lane of I95, and I saw headlights coming at me, and that woke me up really quickly. I realized it wasn’t coming at me, it was a car upside down on its roof in the left lane, and the headlights were pointing into traffic.

I pulled over, and ran across the highway, fully thinking there was going to be something terrible I was going to see, some mangled person. When I reached the car, before I could bend over, a bare forearm and hand came out of the crushed down window, then another, and before I could even get over being completely startled, a guy with long hair wearing only blue jeans and no shirt or shoes dragged himself out and stood up next to me as I stared at him. (I have no memory of anything else at that time, cars that might have been zooming by, but the look of this wild eyed guy) I finally managed to blurt out “Are you okay?” and he said “Yeah...I think so.”

When I asked what happened, he said he had fallen asleep.

After that, I had no trouble staying awake for a while. But as the sun was coming up, I was driving through Georgia, and was nodding off. This time, I pulled my MG off the road, put my seat back, and leaned back to take a nap.

I awoke in a terrified panic, reaching for the wheel. It was a sunny morning, I had barely fallen asleep, and as I blinked in the beautiful sunshine, I realized I had pulled off the road.

I had dropped immediately into sleep and dreamed I was still driving down the road and fallen asleep at the wheel. My heart was pounding, and I broke out in a sweat. Needless to say, I made it the rest of the way down.

I don’t do that anymore.


42 posted on 03/31/2017 4:55:14 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: 21twelve

Most of us worked or are working two jobs. It’s the only thing you can do when you have a family.


43 posted on 03/31/2017 5:07:29 AM PDT by momincombatboots (pathway to citizenship... Amnesty history repeats. Walling Illegals In wasn't the idea moron!)
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To: Timpanagos1

Where are all the racist Freepers today who were yelling “DRUNK MEXICAN” on the original thread?


44 posted on 03/31/2017 5:14:08 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: momincombatboots

After a 3pm to 7am double shift I had an hour drive home. Half way home I woke up to dried ears of corn smacking my Pinto at 70 mph. Fortunately I had swerved right into a flat field. Later that summer I fell asleep a stop sign.

After that I learned to take a nap.


45 posted on 03/31/2017 5:18:53 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Timpanagos1

“he is 20 years old... how can he be fatigued?”

Not involving this case but you would be surprised how many teens/young adults get fatigued. Several years back, there was a single vehicle fatality at our local high school. Senior girl.. honor roll.. AP classes... fell asleep at the wheel and hit a tree ( a half a block from the high school). Why? She had been studying for four AP exams and several honor tests. No drugs, no alcohol, no texting... just a motivated and exhausted kid trying to get good grades and get into college. When I went to college, I worked 32 plus hours a week and took 12 credits AND assisted greatly at home. There were times (especially at the end of a night or during finals.. that I was so tired that I felt sick. *** Just saying that youth doesn’t trump the body’s exhaustion level.


46 posted on 03/31/2017 5:20:17 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Timpanagos1

Man, thanks for publishing that, MySA. Now, you’ve insulted a lot of high school football players.


47 posted on 03/31/2017 5:45:38 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Timpanagos1
I know this area well, best motorcycle roads in Texas, bikers call them the "3 Twisted Sisters" (Ranch Roads 335 /336 /337). Lots of hazards, sharp bends, blind corners and dips restricting line of sight to 100' or less.

Lots of human hazards, too. Bikers and Sports Car nuts going too fast. Locals who exhibit little tolerance for either. A part of Texas remote enough to use the "Six Pack" method of distance estimation. "It's 2 six packs here to Uvalde..."

48 posted on 03/31/2017 5:45:39 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: Timpanagos1

20 years old and still in high school?


49 posted on 03/31/2017 6:49:20 AM PDT by jch10 (President Trump, President Trump, President Trump! I just love saying that!)
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To: Timpanagos1

I do not see how him having played football is important to this story.


50 posted on 03/31/2017 6:58:02 AM PDT by MortMan (Attractive physicists have an exceptional incidence of thermal presence.)
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To: rlmorel

The thing about pulling over to sleep is a hole cops harassing you.

In TX, anyway.


51 posted on 03/31/2017 7:31:43 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: PAR35

Statistically, mexicans cause many, many accidents where I live.

That’s not rayciss, it’s discernment.


52 posted on 03/31/2017 7:33:44 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: Spunky
So those 27 who were killed weren't even worth 1 year each. How sad.

Remember the fire in Providence RI some years back? It was what, around 100 dead? Each of those live were worth only about fifteen minutes of 'community service' to the black robed tyrant who sentenced the responsible party in a plea deal.

The legal 'profession' constantly decries 'taking the law into one's own hands' out of one side of their mouths, while simultaneously, by such 'judgments' as these, virtually ensure that very outcome out of the other. The hubris of these braying jackasses is nothing short of absolutely jaw-dropping...

the infowarrior

53 posted on 03/31/2017 11:04:14 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: T-Bone Texan

Yep, the daughter of a good friend of my wife’s was killed by one. But I do try to wait for the facts before I state the obvious.

Now, on criminals with punctuation marks in the names, I’ll be the first to go with the stereotype.


54 posted on 03/31/2017 2:39:10 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: T-Bone Texan
The thing about pulling over to sleep is a hole cops harassing you.

There was a string of foreign tourists being killed and robbed at rest stops in Florida. So there are worse things than being hassled by cops who compensate for their physical inadequacies.

55 posted on 03/31/2017 2:41:19 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

“Yo - the punctuation mark ain’t silent!”


56 posted on 03/31/2017 4:21:57 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: Paladin2

Not for the driver.


57 posted on 05/28/2022 12:18:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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