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Here’s how much Gov. Jerry Brown wants to raise the gas tax to fix crumbling roads (GAG!)
AP ^ | 03/29/2017 | AP Staff

Posted on 03/30/2017 11:11:51 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

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To: Paradox

If I drive 10K miles a year in a 30mpg car, I will use 333 gallons of fuel.

The extra 12 cents means an additional $40 in taxes for that 10K miles.

The tax is currently 38 cents, so that’s about $127 in taxes.

After the increase, your average Toyota Corolla driver would be paying about $170 a year to use the roads in California for 10K miles.

If a Tesla Owner pays a fixed $100 fee, he’s getting a sweet deal.


41 posted on 03/30/2017 12:54:16 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: TexasGator

The big rigs pay a lot of road use taxes as well. Far more than cars.

But the point is that heavier vehicles cause more wear. Your average Tesla weighs twice as much as a Toyota Corolla.

With fossil fueled vehicles this is basically self correcting. The heavier the vehicle, the more fuel it uses, thus the more taxes it pays.

These electric vehicles weigh as much, or more, and pay little if any road use fees.


42 posted on 03/30/2017 12:57:58 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: meyer

And a lot of the cars on the road aren’t registered (or insured, no doubt). We tell everyone when they affix the current sticker onto their license plates to then take an exacto knife and slash a criss-cross over the tag, so anyone attempting to peel it off and put on their unregistered vehicle will end up with crumbled bits and pieces. SIGH!


43 posted on 03/30/2017 1:06:10 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: notaliberal

It is also a pension tax. You pay and pay and the state worker relaxes with your money.


44 posted on 03/30/2017 1:18:56 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: ltc8k6

“But the point is that heavier vehicles cause more wear. Your average Tesla weighs twice as much as a Toyota Corolla.”

Yes but the tires are probably twice the size and inflated to similar pressures.

The roads are over-built for cars and even heavy cars cause very little damage.


45 posted on 03/30/2017 1:19:07 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: ltc8k6

Sometimes it pays to read more than just the headline before posting ...


46 posted on 03/30/2017 1:21:14 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

“Sometimes it pays to read more than just the headline before posting ...”

You see that the story is from the AP, so you don’t read that. You find another source for the story.


47 posted on 03/30/2017 1:27:54 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I don’t support tax increase but something needs to be done to equalize the assessment for electric vehicles. They use the same roads (arguably more than others given the fuel efficiency) but pay no gas tax. A revenue neutral solution would reduce the gas tax and increase vehicle fees for electric cards.


48 posted on 03/30/2017 2:05:57 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: SkyDancer

“Tax the cars off the roads then you wouldn’t have to fix them.”

Give ‘Moonbeam’ time he will.


49 posted on 03/30/2017 2:25:19 PM PDT by kagnew
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

One solution is to gtf out of that Liberal hell hole. I did 35 years ago. Took a big pay cut. Never been sorry. Not for one nanosecond.


50 posted on 03/30/2017 3:52:39 PM PDT by Seruzawa (I keel you Vorga feelthy.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Only 10 dollars a month (year sure, only 10 more dollars per month)? Well let’s make it sound even cheaper by saying “ONLY 35 cents a day.”


51 posted on 03/30/2017 4:12:41 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: Paradox

Yes, paying by mile is a reasonable alternative for vehicles that don’t buy gas. But this $100 fixed fee has no basis in logic. I drive less than 3,000 miles per year, which means a $100 fee equals 3.33 cents per mile. That is the equivalent of paying a DOLLAR per gallon gas tax for a 30mpg gasoline vehicle. The gas tax would be lower on an SUV !

Any attempt to create equivalent taxes for non-gasoline vehicles needs to have more thought involved. Maybe 1 cent per mile per ton of vehicle gross weight, paid by reporting the miles driven on the annual vehicle registration renewal. That at least might bear some rational relationship to the amount of wear and tear a vehicle puts on the roads regardless of fuel.


52 posted on 03/30/2017 11:02:52 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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