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To: xzins

This whole healthcare drama has shaken me. Why Trump has appeared to be so supportive of Ryan is mystifying and unsettling. Something isn’t adding up.


35 posted on 03/28/2017 12:48:58 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
My guess is lying Ryan persuaded Team Trump with the little legislative prince, he could produce a ‘healthcare’ plan. Problem was that lying Ryan went into ‘secret’ mode and refused to allow any one but his donors to pen the legislation.

Trump campaigned against Congress using ‘we the people’ to pay off campaign donors via legislation.. Ryan miscalculated that his ‘secret’ legislation would be given the green light, because he was third in line for the oval office. RYAN is that very proverbial ‘SNAKE’ Trump campaigned against.

36 posted on 03/28/2017 1:03:31 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Fantasywriter

On health care Trump is a moderate to liberal. That must mean Ryan is on board with that.


37 posted on 03/28/2017 1:45:47 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: Fantasywriter

From a thread earlier today:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3538694/posts

Scott Pelley: What’s your plan for Obamacare?

Donald Trump: Obamacare’s going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what’s going on with premiums where they’re up 45, 50, 55 percent.

Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?

Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private.” But—

Scott Pelley: Universal health care?

Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.

Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of how?

Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably—

Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?

Donald Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-60-minutes-scott-pelley/
He said who he was, and he didn’t apologize. He made himself clear throughout the campaign. In doing so, he was not only able to win the Republican nomination, but he also won the election by cracking the blue wall and winning with working class voters, poor voters, and rural voters. Some of these voters are dependent on Obamacare. If you wanted a candidate who was going to do a straight repeal or repeal and replace with something that did not include a safety net, Donald Trump was not the candidate to vote for. You would have wanted Ted Cruz or Rand Paul.

He even reiterated again in an interview with The Washington Post right before he took office:

We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said.

There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.” People covered under the law “can expect to have great health care. It will be in a much simplified form. Much less expensive and much better.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-vows-insurance-for-everybody-in-obamacare-replacement-plan/2017/01/15/5f2b1e18-db5d-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html?postshare=1231484529419268&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.4e23ce91c858

Just some basic stats and polls:


38 posted on 03/28/2017 1:52:51 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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