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To: TigerLikesRooster; Pelham; Ohioan

were the Supreme Court justices who ratified Roe versus Wade and all the quotas and affirmative action and civil rights preference precedence Boomers?

Were the Supreme Court justices who voted in the Everson case where the Wall of Separation became law were they boomers?

What about the legislators who approved their nominations were they boomers....?

All that hamfisted civil rights and open borders minority heavy immigration stuff mid 60s was voted in not by boomers But by boomer parents and grandparents

You have had a habit of boomer bashing I assume for personal reasons for years here

And that’s fine if it were fact based but it isn’t

Your generation is more libtard and it’s not my fault nor my parents or my grandparents

It’s yours

If you want to start a real origin of sin in leftism in America

I blame the huge immigrations waves after the Anglo Saxon founding and Irish bumps

Mostly German and Scandinavian and more importantly German and Eastern European and Uke and Russian and so forth white immigrants who were really the very first modern leftists to bring humanism and progressivism and a doubt of Christianity with them (no not all were Jews....many were Lutheran and Congregationalist )

The Fabian socialist....folks more inclined to soak up progressive ideology than the English speaking founders or even the French and Spanish had been

That’s where the worm turned in my opinion....3-4 generations prior to the post WWII boom

We had plenty libtard from then on....that laid the seeds for the Camp of the Saints we now live with

What’s funny but escapes you is that soon enough the World War II and Elvis generations will be all dead and Boomers will be the most dependable conservative left...sad but funny

You being young will be too PC to acknowledge but you do know we’re talking about the WHITE VOTE when we nuance like this

There is little age variable in the non white vote except maybe Vietnamese and Cubans

The real place where boomers really jumped the rails culture wise was sex.....for one reason

The pill


46 posted on 03/27/2017 12:32:25 AM PDT by wardaddy (We're gonna have to kill a lot of them eventually which is hard to fathom)
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To: wardaddy
Well, if those boomers are still left/liberal, they can't be conservatives now, can they? People change over time, but it is a little disconcerting that they still have hang-ups when somebody points out what they did back then. We can stretch this way back to Karl Marx or French revolutionaries, but what is the point?

Why is it that people refuse to repudiate their past even though they now realize that they were wrong?

People frequently jump on a political tide which is set in motion before their time. It is troubling if they jump on in huge numbers and give it a decisive momentum. We all make choices. We cannot claim that we had no choice but sign up for it even if nobody put a gun in the head.

It is interesting that those who used to say, “Do not trust anybody over 30,” now turn around to insist that they are sensible mainstream establishment guarding virtuous society. It is not you but lots of people from the same generation. It should not be difficult to separate yourself from them, including any shared connection with the past.

Every sustained movement reaches a critical mass after which huge number of people start to participate and it turns into a tidal wave. The fact that the tide is so overwhelming does not mean that you have to embrace it since you can not actively resist it in public. The scale of liberal tidal wave in fact dramatically increased after 60’s and 70’s. Large public display of support for Mao, Yasser Arafat, and sundry of left-wing terrorists was common. Jane Fonda was one of their icons, and China's Cultural Revolution was supposedly to usher in a new utopia. Not a single day had passed by without another talk of uprising, revolution, bombing, and imminent collapse of capitalist order. The mood was deeply unsettling and always angry. If you lived at the time, you would have had no idea that you were living at the zenith of prosperity. Somehow every institution was wrong, and had to be destroyed. This was espoused by large number of people.

You can claim that you were merely puppets hence free of any faults by being one of them during that time. That may be true. You could have changed and now be firmly against what you espoused. You could be now part of bulwark defending conservatism against liberal left.

So why is it difficult to say that the movement you once embraced grew on a massive scale and is now destroying the society from within, and you repudiate the past? If you were not part of it and always opposed to it, you were not at fault as I made it clear in previous posts. There were people who went to Nam and got condemned for merely being drafted to fight the war there. There were people who spat on veterans returning from the war.

If we track historical origin of some movement, it usually goes further back than we thought. Sometimes it goes way back. But there is a point when it is set in motion in earnest and that is usually viewed as a starting point. For example, when suddenly a huge number of people join. So many could view that moment as a real starting point.

I am confining this argument to a segment of boomer generation who espoused liberal left politics. If they had changed, I no longer have anything against them. But it could be a problem if they tried to defend or play down what they did in the past. They were all active participants even though many of whom walked away from it.

I don't understand why people attempt to conflate this with across-the-board condemnation of all boomer generation or what aging boomers are now.

62 posted on 03/27/2017 1:52:10 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: wardaddy

The pill, coming when it did, changed everything.


95 posted on 03/27/2017 5:26:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: wardaddy
The real place where boomers really jumped the rails culture wise was sex.....for one reason

The pill

I take issue with this point. It is incomplete. It was not just the pill but a couple of other things as well.

World War II created a female rich environment in the US, and this led to promiscuity being embraced by the women of the time to give them better odds to snag one of men remaining in the nation.

Also the development of antibiotics which were shown to be able to cure some serious STDS helped to reassure the promiscuous.

But the main thing was the death of men, followed by the pill.

118 posted on 03/27/2017 8:36:30 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: wardaddy; Pelham

The Fabian socialist....folks more inclined to soak up progressive ideology than the English speaking founders or even the French and Spanish had been”

Columbia University in NYC apparently started this trend in the 1930’s. We all saw what happened to Columbia.


153 posted on 03/27/2017 12:53:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: wardaddy

Camp of the Saints...
The Pill.
Good points!


195 posted on 03/27/2017 8:27:51 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: wardaddy

Your post 46 totally nailed it.


200 posted on 03/28/2017 10:14:11 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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