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To: hotsteppa

Sundance made a compelling arguement in a previous post, that in effect,, with regards to the congressional GOP, there are no good guys and there are no bad guys. They`re all, with few exceptions, bad guys. That may sound harsh, but I would encourage people to give it some consideration.
Criticizing the freedom caucus isn`t the same as agreeing with Ryan. Perhaps Poe is one of the few good guys struggling to find a way out of a no win situation.

To summarize Sundance`s arguement, he points out that the freedom caucus supported, and continues to support Ryan for speaker. If you hold that position, how committed are you, really, to supporting conservative principles?

Think outside the box, people. The Uniparty is still alive and well. This is the same kabuki dance we`ve been seeing for years from the GOP. It`s the political version of good cop, bad cop. The `conservative` faction stands up for conservative principles, then shrugs and says `We tried.` when they don`t suceed; and all while continuing to support the guy who made it impossible for them to suceed.

Don`t fall for the simplistic narrative the GOP is setting up for you.


127 posted on 03/26/2017 5:01:58 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl

+1


128 posted on 03/26/2017 5:05:56 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: mbrfl

Bingo. Too many shallow thinkers here on FR. The whole system is a con game designed to keep everyone in power. Freedom Caucus claims conservative principles while at the same time voting for the very Speaker who will ensure they can’t enact their agenda. Conversely, the leadership allows them to spout off and keep the right wing purists engaged in the electorate who actually believe something will get done. All the while, everyone says they tried but nothing gets done.

Trump knows this, which is why he wanted a vote, to get everyone on record. If they voted in the affirmative, he claims a victory of a massive rollback of many of the worst parts of OCare. If the vote went down to defeat, he shows the complete ineffectiveness of Ryan and we perhaps (doubtful), get a new Speaker. Part of me thinks this was the desired goal, a set up of Ryan. If there was no vote, he just exposed them all for the frauds they are.


145 posted on 03/26/2017 5:50:52 PM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States)
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