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To: conservative98

I was following Joel up to the point where he took a flying leap off the platform of reality and stated, “Trump will turn to the moderate Democrats and offer them a deal.”

A “moderate Democrat” is an oxymoron.


2 posted on 03/24/2017 8:26:23 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Carl Vehse

Trump clearly stated he believes the govt has a role in healthcare. . And we must work something out on the dreamers. So amnesty, next? I can hardly wait.


4 posted on 03/24/2017 8:30:49 PM PDT by momincombatboots (pathway to citizenship... Amnesty history repeats. Walling Illegals In wasn't the idea moron!)
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To: Carl Vehse

You’re nitpicking words.

The fact is, Obamacare is unsustainable and Trump knows it will fail, eventually. Failure means massively higher premiums, plans being cancelled or not renewed, providers exiting the market, etc. These things will cause significant pain - on top of what has already been endured, and more and more people will reach the breaking point. Remember that now the penalties will hit the max, and all the other punitive aspects of Obamacare will continue on as-is. It is going to hurt, and the members of Congress are eventually going to feel it too.

In short, Obamacare hasn’t hit rock bottom yet. But it will and when it does, even Democrats are going to be pleading with Trump to work with them on a replacement that will address the issues and allow them to keep their seats.

There are 30 members of the Freedom Caucus, all it will take is 30 Democrats to pass a new healthcare bill. They wouldn’t do it today because the pain they feel from Obamacare is much less than the pain they would feel from voting to support Trump. He is betting that will change, and when it does, it may well be Democrat votes that put the replacement bill over the top, regardless of how much of a fit the Freedom Caucus throws.


5 posted on 03/24/2017 8:35:00 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Carl Vehse

Careful. You might miss the point. Trump plays the long version.


11 posted on 03/24/2017 8:44:57 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Carl Vehse

Yeah its about the same as Moderate Muslim. There are none.


27 posted on 03/24/2017 9:05:37 PM PDT by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: Carl Vehse

A “moderate Democrat” is an oxymoron.
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Current Congress, agreed. Used to be a Democrat fro Georgia, can’t remember his name, had a rep for having his own mind...
Zell Miller?


52 posted on 03/24/2017 10:31:15 PM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: Carl Vehse

It’s relatively speaking.

By throwing in a few sops to sacred cows of the Donks, Donald may get a bill that sails through.

It might not please diehard purists, but I’ve long said this needs to be a matter of evolution. We can’t undo this monster in one go. It’s too crippled.


54 posted on 03/24/2017 10:58:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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