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To: Hugin

You have it backwards. The GOP would have owned Obamacare if they had passed the rearranging bill Ryan put forth.
Obamacare still belongs to those who passed it.
Just as Ryancare would have belonged to the GOP if it had passed, it would still mainly be Obamacare, but the name would have changed.


50 posted on 03/24/2017 4:07:07 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The GOP owns it either way. People blame the party in power for what happens during their terms, regardless of details.


55 posted on 03/24/2017 4:14:36 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Time for Newt!


91 posted on 03/24/2017 7:44:09 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Actually No. Unfortunately, people have a very short memory. The FC was looking for a perfect bill from the get go. The FC ignored the fact that the public is looking for change NOW (even imperfect change) and they ignored the perception (right or wrong) that a failure to unite within the party would make them look impotent, unlike the democrats who at least are loyal to a cause.

The regular folks actually believed something would be done if Republicans had congress and the Presidency. We have been lied to over and over, and this defeat will last awhile. We’ve LOST ANY MOMENTUM we might have had, and that’s a hard thing to regain. Passing the bill in the House would have been solidarity sign to the people they represent that they do intend to make things better.

Those that say we can just repeal are incredibly naive. If you repealed, things can’t simply return to the way they were before Obamacare. Too much infrastructure has been changed, damaged or removed.

Previous repeal bills pushed forward were done for show only. The Republicans knew that if they ever got to Obama he would veto. I believe the current bill proposed was the best chance to make the “first move” in a longer term repeal/replace strategy. The FC F*&ded us all. Thanks for nothing......


108 posted on 03/24/2017 8:39:15 PM PDT by PsyOps
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