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Moving on doesn’t mean do other great things. The President is 70 yrs old. He doesn’t give a damn about legacy. He may not run again if it’s not fun.

And worse, far worse, he CAN’T do other things. The budget savings in the healthcare bill were to keep deficit neutrality on all other plans, including paying for the wall. The debt ceiling has to be raised sometime in the next two months. The dems will vote no, these wackos will vote no, then there’s no money for the wall or anything else.

One more time, morons, for those of you who have never heard of Quantitative Ease.

Obamacare will not implode. Implode has no meaning. It is fully funded with budget mechanism. You want them gone? Find 60 votes. You want the mechanism gone with fewer than 60? That’s called budget Reconciliation. It stays, it gets funded. You think it will cost too much? It’s just more bonds issued by Treasury for the Fed to buy.

There is no implode. It will be there forever. Because you didn’t want to get rid of any part of it at all.

Ryan was right. 100% right. That is one brilliant guy. From day 1, THIS is the closest you’ll ever get. Never again will there be a chance.

“And worse, far worse, he CAN’T do other things.”

The democrats will probably win back control of congress next year if the Republicans can’t do their jobs and pass legislation. Then you can say bye bye to the funding for the border wall, for ICE, etc. The best case scenario will then be gridlock. Worst case scenario will be Trump working with the democrats.

“He may not run again if it’s not fun.”

That statement reveals all we need to know about you.

I take your reply very seriously and I have some questions which I ask quite in ingenuously.

First, do you discount the possibility that reconciliation is possible in the Senate either because the Senate parliamentarian will rule that extensive changes in Obama care are not subject to filibuster, or alternatively, because the Vice President of the United States has the power to overrule her to the same effect?

Second, I am aware that you do not think there of 50 votes in the Senate which is a plausible position to take in view of what I believe to be a sham obstacle created by Rinos to give them cover for the absurd legislation they have offered and the absurd procedure with three stages which we know will never be enacted. I believe that if the president forces the issue on reconciliation in the Senate they just might find 5 1 votes, with the vice president's vote in the background.

Third, The point of the sham concerning reconciliation is to avoid repealing Obama care in full because they simply do not want to be touching a new third rail of politics. The Republicans have never been successful in the real world at taking away entitlements with the possible exception of Gingrich's reform of welfare, which is not survive. They want the issue but they do not want to be seen depriving anyone of healthcare. I think they assumed they could simply plunder the treasury and keep the essence of Obama care going. The promises made by the Rino Republicans were never possible. Candidate Trump is equally guilty but for a shorter time with his overpromising of universal healthcare, cheaper premiums, while keeping pre-existing conditions etc. the circle simply cannot be squared. So they would close the circle with more debt. Your reaction?

Fourth, I am not well-educated on whether sequester would frustrate all our hopes for the Trump administration if Obama care stands. Could sequestration not be undone with 51 votes? If it cannot be, how do the mechanics of sequester work to control spending?

Thank you for your insightful replies on this thread.