Pay us £50bn or we'll cause air traffic chaos and stop goods at the border, warns the EU: Chief…[tr]

Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 15:03 EDT, 23 March 2017 | Jason Groves

[Olog-hai]

Brussels last night made an extraordinary threat to disrupt flights to Europe and hold British goods at the border if the UK refuses to pay a £50 billion Brexit divorce bill.

The EU’s chief negotiator Michel Barnier said the UK would pay a heavy price if it tried to walk away from the EU without paying for its “responsibilities”. In a mocking speech, he quoted Winston Churchill, saying: “The price of greatness is responsibility.”

Government lawyers have told Theresa May that the UK has no duty to pay a penny towards the EU’s ongoing costs after leaving. A report by a House of Lords committee this week reached the same conclusion.

Ministers privately accept they could end up making some form of payment in return for continued access to services we wish to remain a member of. But Theresa May has ruled out paying “large sums” to Brussels.

Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has said the Government will not pay the EU’s demands, and International Trade Secretary Liam Fox has branded the demand from Brussels as “absurd”. …

[cpdiii]

I guess that war is still an option - is Germany going for their third try?

They at were time formidable warriors. Today they are pussies.

[rrrod]

I dont think you are off base. Germany’s history and statements/actions of the current fascist running the government prove you have valid points.

[Olog-hai]

No; the EEC was not a grand idea, but a stepping stone towards what is now. It had the same governmental structure as the EU of today (and without elected members of parliament); it also had the Common Agricultural Policy, which was the first of the many draconian regulations we see today. Ireland even had to change its constitution to join it, including a clause in the Third Amendment that gave the laws the EEC wrote and passed the “force of law in the state”, thus destroying the independence they claimed to have fought for since 1916 and even before that.

The EU was always designed to rule by crisis. As Jean Monnet, one of the EU’s architects, stated in his memoirs (published 1976):

Europe will be forged in crises, and will be the sum of the solutions adopted for those crises.

The goal was always to push the people to cast off their freedoms in exchange for security from the very crises the EU leaders cause or let happen.

[Olog-hai]

Don’t underestimate the Bundeswehr or Deutsche Marine. Especially since the former secretary of defense, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, changed the conscription rules to permit a more volunteer-based professional military to develop. The Bundeswehr in particular has always been second behind US forces in terms of international deployments, so they are not without experience.

Also follow the trends of forces from other countries starting to come under German military command.