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Trump will do all he can to force a vote, and it will fail.
1 posted on 03/23/2017 11:07:07 AM PDT by Mariner
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Repeal. Only.


2 posted on 03/23/2017 11:10:42 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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It should be the other way around - Freedom Caucus should present THEIR demands to Ryan (and Trump) about what should be in the bill - or simply say WE WILL VOTE NO.

Decisions become easy - when you have principles.


3 posted on 03/23/2017 11:10:54 AM PDT by PGR88 (The)
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How long before some here deride these same Reps that fought against the Establishment in recent years simply because they won’t rubber stamp OBcare-lite?


4 posted on 03/23/2017 11:11:25 AM PDT by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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I wonder how many more “final” offers there will be.


5 posted on 03/23/2017 11:11:28 AM PDT by gdani (Repeal. It. All.)
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They’ve assured us that repeal/replace will come in three stages. I suggest that they pass a vote on Stage 3 first, just to humor us, and write poison pills into 1 and 2 that trigger if the follow on stages don’t occur in a timely fashion. Just to humor us.


6 posted on 03/23/2017 11:11:39 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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Let the people see this socialism. We want to read it!! Last night there “was a deal” . The only thing left was drafting language. I speculate the the Rinos killed the DEAL!!! Paul Ryan killed the DEAL!!


9 posted on 03/23/2017 11:13:22 AM PDT by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARE. NO RINOCARE!!--FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)
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Not that I don't trust CNBC but I don't trust CNBC.

My spidey senses tell me things were not as terse as we're supposed to believe.

10 posted on 03/23/2017 11:13:26 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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The offer will be “Vote yes or I will schedule rallies in each of your home districts from now until the next primary and guess what we will be talking about?”

I agree, Trump wants to force this to a vote, now. It matters not so much what’s in it because the real hurdle will come in the Senate and in the new legislation to follow in phase 3 (including cross-state sales, etc). Whatever the House passes will be changed, probably a lot, but they will have passed it, and then it’s a matter of negotiating changes.

But this is tantamount to walking away from the negotiating table. You present your best and final offer and then you wait for the other guy to respond.

Art of the deal!


11 posted on 03/23/2017 11:13:47 AM PDT by bigbob
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Watching Sean Spicer trip all over himself trying to avoid the particulars of this disaster!

This contains NO REPEAL!

Interesting that those of us holding Trump to his campaign promise of a full repeal are the ones being castigated. Where’s the outrage at Trump trying to feed us a crap sandwich?


14 posted on 03/23/2017 11:15:13 AM PDT by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)
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I can tell you this: the first official NO from a Republican was announced today...the liberal Miami media is drooling with glee. Ileana Ros-Lehitenen is a BIG TIME RINO. So while I do applaud the Freedom Caucus, the fact that RINOs don’t like it seems good to at least a degree.


15 posted on 03/23/2017 11:15:32 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Night vote?

What the Hell?

If these morons can’t accomplish their jobs during normal business hours they need to be canned.


16 posted on 03/23/2017 11:16:33 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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RE:”Trump will do all he can to force a vote, and it will fail.”

I don't see how any (and I mean any) over-all replacement bill, including straight repeal, passes both the House and Senate.

Keep in mind it took Obama ~ 15 months to get the monstrosity to his desk to sign (and it took 2 bills to get one through)

If this all falls apart, isn't there just one or two regulations (to start with ) that ~ nearly all Republicans can agree to get rid of?

Isn't there anything? Just One regulation???

18 posted on 03/23/2017 11:16:42 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Don't call it Trumpcare until he does!)
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Ryancare is not repeal.
Rearranging is not what we voted for.


19 posted on 03/23/2017 11:17:05 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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Sure wish we could get a more reliable source on this than CNBC (Counterfeit & Nothing But Counterfeit).

I think the Freedom Caucus is trying to defeat the vote for this RINOcare bill. Is that right?


20 posted on 03/23/2017 11:17:17 AM PDT by Jim W N
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If it passes, I think it's a good win for Trump.

Why? Because Trump can just do what O-dummy with his law, change it whenever he wants to.

Only Trump can change it 70 times to help the American people, he can change it until it's a fully a free market law.

26 posted on 03/23/2017 11:22:24 AM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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That’s fine. He walks. If they don’t pass the vote then Obamacare can continue on its merry way.

Problem is, that it was going to be associated with the tax cuts.

We love to shoot ourselves in the foot.

Once it passes the house the Senate can make changes. then it goes back to the House again.


30 posted on 03/23/2017 11:26:35 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Rudy Guiuliani for Head of FBI)
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I have a bad feeling that tonight, we are going to handed, the biggest, juiciest crap sandwich we have ever laid our eyes upon, and it will be presented by President Trump as a “Beautiful Thing!”

I hope I’m wrong, but I do NOT believe I am.


48 posted on 03/23/2017 11:39:50 AM PDT by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)
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Paul “The Snake” Ryan is setting up President Trump.


51 posted on 03/23/2017 11:42:45 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Trump has said the repeal and replacement of Obamacare must happen before action can be taken on his other plans, including a major tax reduction.

Why?

53 posted on 03/23/2017 11:43:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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My message to the Freedom Caucus: If you want to lose in 2018, vote “NO”.


63 posted on 03/23/2017 11:55:42 AM PDT by jokemoke
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