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To: Jane Long

Nothing wrong with tweaking it as you wish, other than it’s a waste of time. If you know the Senate can’t pass what you send to them, how is that efficient?

Politics is the art of the possible. Pelosi sent Reid a single payer plan. It almost cost them the time they needed to get SOMETHING, ANYTHING through. Then their hardcore leftists who hated Obamacare because it wasn’t single payer circled the wagons around it.

Ryan isn’t evil or left wing or a Democrat. He’s efficient. He’s not making the mistake she made. He’s gotten educated about cloture and Reconciliation and arranging text accordingly before it goes to the Senate.

The petulant faction here on FR just can’t seem to accept they don’t have 60 votes, but that’s only half of what they don’t accept. The other half is that the Dems DID have 60 votes. They had a bigger majority.

Trump gave them this chance. To get SOMETHING, ANYTHING, with a tiny, tiny, tiny majority. You guys need to go back and read about Ben Nelson and the Nebraska features Reid had to put in the process to get Nelson to vote for it. There is nothing new here. The extremists NEVER get what they want. True on the left, and it will be true on the right, too.


41 posted on 03/23/2017 9:18:11 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen

The problem is, you don’t know what will pass in the Senate. You are buying into a fatalistic end game pretending to know what will pass in the Senate. If the House bill cannot pass, the Senate will pass its bill and it will go to a conference committee.

Let’s see what can actually pass the Senate.


44 posted on 03/23/2017 9:21:48 AM PDT by mrs9x
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To: Owen

The problem I have with your logic is “how does it ever change?”

If they have been playing dirty politics for years and shafting the American people to get something passed, whether it serves Americans or not, how about taking a leaf from the Brits & shaming people like Sasse in public, as a body.

Ryan is nothing to hold up as an embodiment of any virtue. He has no saving grace. As the speaker perhaps he tells us much about the level of virtue, truth, honor, commitment in the House that we would prefer not to face. When we have members that think Guam is tipping over, Trump should be impeached because I don’t like him, something should be done. Perhaps there should be a civics & literacy test, simple math test to be able to run for office.

The one thing we shouldn’t do is go along because we aren’t willing to speak out and keep speaking out for something better.


58 posted on 03/23/2017 11:03:35 AM PDT by JayGalt
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