Posted on 03/22/2017 5:34:29 AM PDT by ShivaFan
Rand Paul is trying to be relevant. Ted Cruz thinks he is going to run for President in four years by undermining Trump and purposely undermining the economic rally. Both of these were candidates who lost to Trump in the Republican primaries. On the other side, we have the total enemies of the Republican base, John McCain who belongs in a strait jacket and is so despised by the Republican base he didn’t even have a chance of even entering the primaries much less win them, and an equally pathetic Never Trumper Lindsey Graham who also like Paul and Cruz ran and lost his bid and dropped out because he couldn’t even get 1 percent of the vote, another Never Trumper, Trump wining Graham’s own state of South Carolina by a landslide. Both McCain and Graham have been on a non-stop tirade against Trump and both want to immediately go to war with Russia and start World War Three. Investors like me already priced in the August tax cuts into the DOW. We started doing that back in December, and we have seen the greatest economic recovery started in my lifetime, largely thanks to Donald Trump. About half of the 3,000 point gain in the DOW since Trump won is this pricing in of the August tax cuts as, like any investor, an investor first buys in when the price is relatively “cheap” with the hopes of gains in the future or near future. So about 1,500 points of the 3,000 point gain in the DOW is this pricing in of the tax cuts which will guarantee and economic and jobs boom like not seen in many decades, it will exceed Reagan. Obamacare is imploding. Once it totally goes under, however, this implosion will hurt the economy. So we need to get rid of it, and replace it – at first with a model that is more based on free economic models – but we need the tax cuts in August first or the pricing in of the cuts into the DOW will then “price out”, the DOW will drop 1,500 points, the left wing MSM will go nuts blaming Trump and the “collapse of the economy” which actually won’t be a collapse because we will still be 1,500 points ahead of the game over the horrible Obama days but just not 3,000 points up but rather 1,500 points up, but the media will tell American over and over again the mantra that Trump destroyed the economy, all part of the efforts by the Democrats and the neo-cons in the Republican Party, the GOPe, and now the likes of Ted Cruz who thinks he can still run for President in 2020 by delaying the tax cuts on purpose so as to hurt the economy and thus hurt Trump who “insulted (my) father and family”.
All that will happen, however, is the Democrats who are totally evil and use deep state against the American people, and who want to suppress freedom of speech and who wants only a media-state propaganda mill in the MSM, and of which are part of the cheap labor global interests along with the GOPe which wants to destroy Trump in the name of cheap foreign labor and open borders, the worst of the worst will gain back power and then totally destroy the American middle class and disfranchise Americans from their jobs and expand debt and expand government to the level of totalitarianism as found in Venezuela. Many good Americans will also be put in prison and totally marginalized. Nor will Cruz even be able to run for President in 2020, he is delusional and will be totally destroyed by the MSM and the Democrats even more so than the MSM, the Democrats, the GOPe, McCain, Graham, now Rand, and Ted Cruz could ever destroy Trump. As far as Rand is concerned, he will get everything he wants in the replacement of Obamacare, but just not right now. That will happen after the tax cuts and the economic boom unlike we have seen in many decades. Just pass what is up on the table now, we MUST move into the tax cuts immediately to start this up, then once we got the economy we want we will setup a replacement of Obamacare that meets all the criteria but we need the tax cuts first to do that which will seal the deal for a Republican majority for the next 20 years.
But what Rand and Cruz and the Democrats and the GOPe is doing, is they are going to – and most see it is intentional – destroy the economy so to destroy Trump who they hate and think they will personally gain by doing so. Certainly Rand and Cruz will gain nothing. Only the Democrats and the GOPe will gain and retake control for the establishment.
And we will all be screwed like you have never experience in your life, you will lose your country, period. Obviously, I hate the Democrats. And the GOPe. And now I hate Ted Cruz and Rand Paul in a big way. Please, contact your representatives, get past the Obamacare thing for now and move into the tax cuts immediately, then set the stage for the total end of Obamacare and it’s replacement by a workable system that will save our healthcare and medical progress. Please. Do not let the Democrats regain power. Do not let the delusions of a Ted Cruz destroy us. Do not let the Never Trumpers on FOX, the neo-cons, the open borders cheap labor lobby destroy us. You have this chance like never before, but you are facing the greatest challenge at this time like never before. Stop them. Now.
“Rand Paul is trying to be relevant. Ted Cruz thinks he is going to run for President in four years by undermining Trump and purposely undermining the economic rally.”
Don’t know what you are smoking, but it definitely is wacky.
“Ted Cruz is an assh8le and will never be elected”
That will be up to the Texas voters. Do you prefer John Cornyn 2.0 or Kay Bailey Hutchinson 2.0?
I agree with you as long as you meant Rand Paul not Paul Ryan.
Free Market solutions are required and are not sufficiently in this bill.
The GOPE let the insurance companies write this and Trump the dealmaker is not able tonwalk away from this bad deal like he could in business world.
Put the free market fixes in and quit playing math games to score it for 6 senators......
They left in a bunch if Obamacare taxes so they could call ut “revenue neutral” 10 years out....quit playing games and do the correct thing 1st time ans quit this 3 step b.s..
I thought the Dow was 14,000 when Trump came in, now over 20,000. Don’t you mean the Dow is up 6,000?
And then the Dems get to hit every news show talking about how the GOP plan caused all the problems because Obamacare was never let implode. They get to write the narrative because people have short memories. Repeal and reform not replace!
Are you going to weigh in on your own vanity?
Repeal is the only thing to do. This baloney about 60 votes to repeal is just that. If the Republicans really wanted Obamacare gone they would as a man stand up and take up Trump’s refrain that it’s a disaster. Instead most of them just leave Trump to twist in the wind. If they stood up they would get the 60 votes plus. They don’t even need that...they can change the stinking rule to whatever they want and make it a 50 plus vote.
So what's their alternative that has any chance of passing the senate?
I abhor the political class.
Sounds like an interesting compromise but I would hesitate to offer Medicaid for “all” without a means test. If the world were filled with stand up types its a great plan. The world however is filled with moochers.
Your suggestions are a great step off point!
So you’re plan is to let everything tank and then run on “We told you so” next time? Yea, that should bring the results you want. Democrats will get in and Trump WILL make a deal with them and I doubt it’ll be as “right” as the current plan being bandied about. Of course, at that time all the “True Conservatives” will be yelling and screaming without any real power to do anything (just how they like it). I wonder how many on this site will remember this bill when that happens and say, “We should have just passed ‘RyanCare’. If The Democrats would promise not to spend 2 years doing the “impeach him” dance I would love to see that happen just to hear all the reactions to the deals being made.
Sounds like journalistic embellishment to a remark made in humor. At least that is how Mark Meadors described it, and after all, he was there, and it was said to him personally. He took absolutely no offense, and said so to reporters.
if the GOP is afraid to “own” anything then why exactly do they want to be in power? Oh yea, they tried to tank the election and stumbled into a win and now they are out of their depths. Funny to watch in a sense.
Incomplete quote, MSM clickbait and attempt to sow dissent. It was a joke.
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You have no idea who the Republicans are if you think they have even 50 votes for a straight up repeal. It’s not going to happen. Susan Collins is NOT going to vote to repeal (cutting medicare expansion) and neither is the chick in Alaska.That’s not a real option at all. This talk about needing 60 votes is hog wash because they can change the rules if they really want to (or bypass it with Pence) but the truth is they don’t even have 50 so may as well give themselves cover
They don’t have one. That’s the beauty of being a Senator, you get a nice pay check, get to talk a lot and never have to actually accomplish anything. It’s better when you’re the opposition party because you get to pretend that if only you had some power you would fix things. They don’t know how to be leaders.
The big problem is the financial death spiral that Obamacare has put individuals and families into, with bizarrely expensive coverage that continues to increase in cost, for high deductible policies that are of little practical value other than for major medical or catastrophic care.
Solve that problem and the rest is philosophical. A means tested, tiered "contribution" to Medicaid or Medicare for indigent and poor people, plus preexisting conditions, would take care of one area causing ballooning premiums. Getting illegal aliens off of it would take care of another.
I don't want to see Congress or Federal government employees as a whole exempting themselves from their wonderful largesse this time, either. Good enough for the People is good enough for public servants.
How about this one?
President Trump claimed Friday that House conservatives previously opposed to ObamaCare replacement legislation moving through the chamber are now on board after “changes” were made – an assertion that could be put to the test as early as next week.
The president voiced confidence during a meeting with members of the conservative Republican Study Committee.
“We are doing some incredible things … I am 100 percent behind this,” Trump said, before looking around the room and saying: “All of these no’s, or potential no’s, are all yes’es. Every single person sitting in this room is now a yes.”
Trump, in deal-making mode, says conservatives backing health bill after 'changes'
(Fox News.com ^ | March 17, 2017
Posted on 3/17/2017, 1:42:46 PM)
How about what? I replied that it was a joke, that he was “coming after” anyone voting against it, and it was.
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