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Obama spying on Trump needs investigating
Washington Times ^ | March 15, 2017 | Andrew P. Napolitano

Posted on 03/16/2017 8:20:37 PM PDT by TBP

Mr. Obama would not have needed a warrant to authorize surveillance on Mr. Trump. Mr. Obama was the president and as such enjoyed authority under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to order surveillance on any person in America, without suspicion, probable cause or a warrant.

Thus, in 2016, when Mr. Trump says the surveillance of him took place, Mr. Obama needed only to ask the NSA for a transcript of Mr. Trump’s telephone conversations to be prepared from the digital versions that the NSA already possessed. Because the NSA has the digital version of every telephone call made to, from and within the U.S. since 2005, if Mr. Obama last year wanted transcripts of Mr. Trump’s calls made at any time, the NSA would have been duty-bound to provide them, just as it would be required to provide transcripts of Mr. Obama’s calls today if Mr. Trump wanted them.

I hope the investigations of Mr. Trump’s allegation discover and reveal the truth — whatever it is. But the lesson here is terribly serious. We face the gravest threat to personal liberty since the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 proscribed criticism of the government. We have an unelected, unnamed, unaccountable elite group in the intelligence community manipulating the president at will and possessing intimate, detailed knowledge about all of us that it can reveal. We have statutes that have given the president unconstitutional powers that have apparently been used. And we have judges on secret courts facilitating all this as if the Constitution didn’t exist.

For how much longer will we have freedom?

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bugging; deepstate; nsa; obama; obamagate; obamatrump; shadowgovernment; spying; trump; wiretapping
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To: TBP

Part two of ??? parts history of our agreement where the Brits spied on our people and we spied on their people for 7+ decades. Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

“It couldn’t possibly be true, because that is not how our system works,” Pelosi said during a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington.

“We do not investigate, through a FISA court, Americans — here or abroad.”

Well, Nancy how about this: “Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.”

MUSCULAR (surveillance program)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MUSCULAR (DS-200B), located in the United Kingdom,[1] is the name of a surveillance programme jointly operated by Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) that was revealed by documents which were released by Edward Snowden and interviews with knowledgeable officials.[2] GCHQ is the primary operator of the program.[1]

GCHQ and the National Security Agency have secretly broken into the main communications links that connect the data centers of Yahoo! and Google.[3]Substantive information about the program was made public at the end of October 2013.

Contents:

1 Overview
2 Operational details
3 Reactions and countermeasures
4 Gallery
5 See also
6 References
7 External links

Overview:

The programme is jointly run by:
– Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) (United Kingdom)
– U.S. National Security Agency (NSA)

MUSCULAR is one of at least four other similar programs that rely on a trusted 2nd party, programs which together are known as WINDSTOP.

In a 30-day period from December 2012 to January 2013, MUSCULAR was responsible for collecting 181 million records. It was however dwarfed by another WINDSTOP program known (insofar) only by its code DS-300 and codename INCENSER, which collected over 14 billion records in the same period.[4]
Operational details:

According to the leaked document the NSA’s acquisitions directorate sends millions of records every day from internal Yahoo! and Google networks to data warehouses at the agency’s headquarters at Fort Meade, Maryland.

The programme operates via an access point known as DS-200B, which is outside the United States, and it relies on an unnamed telecommunications operator to provide secret access for the NSA and the GCHQ.[3]

According to the Washington Post, the MUSCULAR program collects more than twice as many data points (“selectors” in NSA jargon) compared to the better known PRISM.[2]

Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

Because of the huge amount of data involved, MUSCULAR has presented a special challenge to NSA’s Special Source Operations. For example, when Yahoo! decided to migrate a large amount of mailboxes between its data centers, the NSA’s PINWALE database (their primary analytical database for the Internet) was quickly overwhelmed with the data coming from MUSCULAR.[5]

Closely related programmes are called INCENSER and TURMOIL. TURMOIL, belonging to the NSA, is a system for processing the data collected from MUSCULAR.[1]

According to a post-it style note from the presentation, the exploitation relied on the fact that (at the time at least) data was transmitted unencrypted inside Google’s private cloud, with “Google Front End Servers” stripping and respectively adding back SSL from/to external connections.

According to the Washington Post: “Two engineers with close ties to Google exploded in profanity when they saw the drawing.” After the information about MUSCULAR was published by the press, Google announced that it was working on deploying encrypted communication between its datacenters.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSCULAR_(surveillance_program)


41 posted on 03/17/2017 6:12:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spygate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: TBP

“Obama spying on Trump needs investigating”.

Duh. How long before someone grows a pair, gathers the evidence, tells the freeking judges to stuff it up their you know what, DRAINS THE EFFING SWAMP, charges and prosecutes Obama and his gang, etc????? I AM SICK OF THIS CRAP!!! THIS IS NOT WHAT I VOTED FOR!!! Obama ran wild for 8 years, defying the Constitution, defying judges, defying Congress. So now all the Obama loyalists continue to do the same! We can’t even leave and go to Canada anymore thanks to fancy pants Trudeau and his gang of Muslims. EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET OFF THEIR ASS AND AWAY FROM THE TV AND START YELLING. I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!


42 posted on 03/17/2017 8:10:43 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (WE WON. GET OVER IT.)
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To: TBP

Will enough wake up before it’s too late is the main question.

In order to MAGA we must MGCA!

President Trump, Make Government Constitutional Again!


43 posted on 03/17/2017 10:53:15 AM PDT by cpforlife.org ( President Trump, Make Government Constitutional Again! MGCA 2 MAGA!)
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To: TBP
From: http://conservativetribune.com/shadow-gov-obamas-plane-trump/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=C50ConservativeBrief&utm_content=2017-03-17

Federal Judge Who Blocked Trump Order Was Obama’s Classmate

Ever since a federal judge in Hawaii issued a sweeping freeze of President Donald Trump’s new immigration moratorium Wednesday, conspiracy theories have abounded across social media.

The leading theory suggested that former President Barack Obama played a role in the ruling. As noted by Hawaii News Now, the former president arrived in the islands Monday for an unexpected visit.

He reportedly dined Tuesday evening at Noi Thai Cuisine, an upscale restaurant, less than 24 hours before U.S. District Court Judge Derrick Watson, a law school classmate of Obama, ruled against Trump’s immigration order.

What concerned conspiracy theorists, according to the Infowars, was that the restaurant was “just minutes away from the courthouse” and that “Obama was likely within five minutes of the judge’s house at one point on the drive over.”

Plus, according to an old White House transcript, it was in fact Obama who had appointed Watson to the court three years ago.

And while Obama’s trip to Hawaii was ostensibly a vacation, PopSugar has reported that “he’s still making time to take care of business.”

“Given that Obama appointed the judge, graduated in the same year as him and visited Honolulu and was within minutes of the judge less than 48 hours before Judge Watson made a major ruling that blocked Trump’s travel ban, it doesn’t take a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist to insinuate that the two could have met,” Infowars concluded.

Was it a conspiracy or a coincidence? Most Americans would likely assume it was just a coincidence, but the existence of a confirmed Obama-operated “deep state” does make one wonder just how far he would be willing to go to thwart Trump.

In fact, according to Breitbart contributor Aaron Klein, Obama may very well “be seeking no less than Trump’s impeachment.”

44 posted on 03/17/2017 11:36:04 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; TWhiteBear; WildHighlander57; Velveeta; ...

Obama spying on Trump needs investigating

Ping to # 44. - Federal Judge Who Blocked Trump Order Was Obama’s Classmate

First, read # 44 ... then check out article , graphics .

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From # 29:

No evidence...

“For how much longer will we have freedom?”>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No evidence?

They’ll make sure there is no evidence:

Theory:

Feinstein and Grassly NOW know that Obama broke the sedition law, by arranging Trump surveillance through a foreign nation.

Strange reactions of Feinstein and Grassly:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3535471/posts

And their job is now to make sure that any evidence of Obama’s crime disappears.

Trump will likely point the investigation to the British Security Service, and Feinstein and Grassly are likley refusing to let the Senate Investigation Committee go there.

Feinstein and Grassly already know that Obama broke the law, and now they are covering it up, with the likely help of a couple of RINO Republicans.

Meanwhile Obama is all alone in Bora Bora, all by himself, without the wookie. Passingly strange. Looks like he is ready to bolt as a fugitive.

Thanks, Art.

45 posted on 03/17/2017 11:56:28 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: TBP
Trump needs to go to War with Obama. Total complete surveillance of all his communications, his home, Valerie, all his old cronies. Past review of Obama's many offenses by Jeff Sessions to clarify and pursue the indictable offenses.

Plus, all his embeds that can't be removed in the state department, dept of justice and other bloated bureaucracies.

Plus, total surveillance and IRS, FBI investigation of Organizing for America, Organizing for Action and the various other Obama deep state organizations. RICO actions, whatever, to root out these domestic enemies.

Plus, put the crunch on Soros any way we can, surveillance, IRS, RICO, FBI, 'reasonable suspicion'. He has to quit attacking our country and funding all these leftist/communist organizations.

They've declared War on us and our President Trump, so we need Fight Back!

President Trump has a lot of work to do and a lot he wants to accomplish in the next eight years. These daily roadblocks need to stop. We need to put the kibosh on this Obama sedition/treason Now so President Trump can get his work done.

Go Trump! Go Sessions!

46 posted on 03/17/2017 11:59:09 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: LucyT
Meanwhile Obama is all alone in Bora Bora, all by himself, without the wookie. Passingly strange. Looks like he is ready to bolt as a fugitive.

Obama runs away and the Germans are in Washington D.C. . .

Pray for President Trump and, even though the election is over, continue to prepare.

47 posted on 03/17/2017 12:06:02 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: LucyT

I was wondering about that, and hadn’t yet checked it out.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/03/16/hawaii-news/judge-who-issued-travel-ban-ruling-is-obama-law-classmate/


48 posted on 03/17/2017 2:35:53 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Making America Great Again!)
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To: TBP
Absolutely...1000%...believable that Obola and ILLary (individually or jointly) would do it.Brazille just admitted that she gave ILLary debate questions beforehand.

I'm no expert on such matters but if spying did occur it will be damn hard to prove.

49 posted on 03/17/2017 6:55:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: TBP

Excellent article. It’s right up Obama alley.


50 posted on 03/18/2017 6:59:25 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: b4its2late

The guy bugged members of the media (AP, James Rosen, Sharyl Atkisson), sicced the IRS on political opponents, and we thik he wouldn’t bug Trump?

“Well, that would be illegal.”

According to the article, he didn’t need authorization — and remember, he himself told us that he didn’t have the legal authority to give amnesty to the dreamers before he gave amnesty to the Dreamers.


51 posted on 03/18/2017 5:38:08 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Simple way to remove his “embeds.” Cancel their jobs. Maybe you can’t remove and replace them from the job, but you can see to it that the job no longer exists.


52 posted on 03/18/2017 5:40:08 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Reverend Wright

Noth that 0bama would care one way or the other.


53 posted on 03/18/2017 5:58:03 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

Exactly. He could do whatever and going outside the US to get it was his way of hiding it.


54 posted on 03/19/2017 4:58:03 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: lee martell

I think there is to be a meeting on the 20th.
http://www.famousplay.com/house-intelligence-committee-announces-march-20-hearings-on-russian-interference/


55 posted on 03/19/2017 8:52:44 AM PDT by smileyface (Things looking up in RED PA! I love President Trump!)
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