Yes, Obama knows if it’s captured, it just might get out.
Just like Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch talking in a private plane on a tarmac. Engine noise all around (even if just other aircraft; air conditioners running).
They did not want that conversation to get recorded.
I would posit that discussion of “grandchildren” constituted 15-30 seconds of the whole conversation.
I would posit that discussion of grandchildren constituted 15-30 seconds of the whole conversation.