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To: Robert DeLong

[[However, I still think Curtis Reeves is culpable, because he allowed a simple incident, while perhaps annoying, get him aggravated to the point of possible escalation.]]

I don’t- rights stop t the tip of a person’s nose- ie the man throwing something at him crossed the line- we can shout and yell all we want- and it’s legal- (sort of) It’s not illegal to yell at someone- but when assault happens- the situation changes- The popcorn, while not dangerous, crossed the line- then the phone- which could cause injury, even serious injury-

Was Curtis a jerk? Probably- but that doesn’t give someone a right to assault him

Now as for use of deadly force- that’s a separate issue- I didn’t hear courtroom testimony- so it’s hard to determine here on a forum- I’m not sure what stand your ground entails- does the person have to prove they legitimately feared for their life? Someone ‘acting aggressively’ after having already demonstrated that they were trying to do serious bodily injury, by throwing the phone at the defendant’s head- should be construed as a possibly dangerous escalation - should it rise to a level of concern where deadly force is warranted? I dunno- again we don’t know all the details-


25 posted on 03/11/2017 10:07:16 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434; Robert DeLong
I would submit that an ex-SWAT police captain, who undoubtedly trained in military situations, and had to have the biggest package in the room in a roomful full of testosterone-laden gear queers during his career, should have a greater duty to exhibit restraint than your average retired police officer.

This is much like a professional boxer or martial arts expert having to restrain the weapons of their trade in commerce with ordinary people.

Reeves most obviously did not.

29 posted on 03/11/2017 10:13:29 AM PST by kiryandil
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To: Bob434

SYG only removes the requirement to use all reasonably proper means to retreat. It does not justify the core shooting. The video shows no cellphone. Def in deep Kim Chee.


34 posted on 03/11/2017 10:18:15 AM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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