Posted on 03/08/2017 5:33:24 PM PST by ez
I am hearing a lot of misinformation about the healthcare roll out. I think the left would love to get conservatives fighting among themselves.
For that reason I think we should all listen to why Ryan is proceeding the way he is and decide if it makes sense.
Listen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGiVoU2KnqU
i’m reading the bill and making comments based on my reading. go ahead though, personal attacks mean nothing to me.
Well? Did he ask?
Fact is, the GOP is hooked like a bunch of meth heads... federal involvement in healthcare is a nasty drug and it’ll be the end of us all no matter how much BS they pile on.
This is Trumps first gaffe
And I love the guy
Gaffe?
This is gonna be a really serious problem!!
And I love the guy...
Dana Loesch says we didnt protest Obamacare for 8 years to get Obamacare 2.0 from congressional Republicans.
Rep. Thomas Massie says the GOP Obamacare repeal stinking pile of garbage written by the insurance lobby, and it will fail.
Ryano will eventually push Romneycare
Federal control of healthcare is ILLEGAL!!
Some Headlines on 03/08/2017 from “conservative” sites (not inclusive):
Conservative Group Club for Growth Opposes Paul Ryans Obamacare-Lite
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/07/conservative-group-club-for-growth-opposes-paul-ryans-obamacare-lite/
FreedomWorks Opposes Speaker Ryans Obamacare 2.0 Plan
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/07/freedomworks-opposes-speaker-ryans-obamacare-2-0-plan/
Rep. Thomas Massie: GOP Obamacare repeal ‘stinking pile of garbage’ written by the ‘insurance lobby,’ and it ‘will fail’
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rep.-thomas-massie-gop-obamacare-repeal-stinking-pile-of-garbage-written-by-the-insurance-lobby-and-it-will-fail/article/2616708
6 moronic arguments for RINOcare, refuted
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/6-moronic-arguments-for-rinocare-refuted
Whats so wrong with Ryancare? Levin breaks it down by the numbers
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/whats-so-wrong-with-ryancare-levin-breaks-it-down-by-the-numbers
Levin explains why ‘RINOcare’ threatens the American way of life
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/levin-explains-why-rinocare-threatens-the-american-way-of-life
GOP rep: Voters want clean ObamaCare repeal
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/health-reform-implementation/322898-gop-rep-voters-want-clean-obamacare-repeal
Conservatives to Use ‘Enormous Power’ to Fight Obamacare Replacement Bill
http://dailysignal.com/2017/03/07/conservative-lawmakers-to-use-their-enormous-power-to-fight-obamacare-replacement-bill/
Trump Loyalist Eric Bolling TRASHES Trump-Supported Obamacare 2.0!
http://politistick.com/eric-bolling-trashes-obamacare-2-0-video/
Exclusive New Web Ad Targets Paul Ryans Obamacare 2.0, Questions If Republicans Will Keep Promise to Repeal
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/08/exclusive-new-web-ad-targets-paul-ryans-obamacare-2-0-questions-republicans-will-keep-promise-repeal/
Exclusive House Freedom Caucus Not Budging, Official Position Is for Full Repeal Alternative to Paul Ryans Obamacare 2.0
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/08/exclusive-house-freedom-caucus-not-budging-official-position-paul-ryans-obamacare-2-0/
Mike Lee Gives Scathing Statement on Obamacare Replacement Bill
http://politistick.com/mike-lee-gives-scathing-statement-on-obamacare-replacement-bill/
The House GOP Leaderships Health Care Bill Is ObamaCare-Lite Or Worse
https://www.cato.org/blog/house-gop-leaderships-health-care-bill-obamacare-lite-or-worse
Obamacare 2.0 Guts Enforcement, Gives Illegal Aliens Health Care Through Identity Fraud
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/07/obamacare-2-0-guts-enforcement-gives-illegal-aliens-healthcare-through-identity-fraud/
“It’s A Train Wreck”: Conservative Groups Revolt Against GOP Healthcare Plan
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-07/its-train-wreck-conservative-groups-slam-gop-healthcare-plan
Conservatives: Paul Ryans Healthcare Plan Replaces Obamacare with Obamacare-Lite
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/07/conservatives-paul-ryans-healthcare-plan-replaces-obamacare-with-obamacare-lite/
Conservative groups blast GOP healthcare plan
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/322717-conservative-groups-blast-gop-healthcare-plan
Freedom Partners, Americans for Prosperity Urge Republican Leaders to Fully Repeal Obamacare, Reject House Bill
https://freedompartners.org/latest-news/freedom-partners-americans-prosperity-urge-republican-leaders-fully-repeal-obamacare-reject-house-bill/
RINOcare Will Continue to Drive Up Costs With Subsidies, Penalties, and Mandates
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/03/07/house-gops-obamacare-replacement-will-make-coverage-unaffordable-for-millions-otherwise-its-great/#7861df1a37fd
Obamacare 2.0 is a gift to illegals. Oh, and GOP? You LIE.
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/obamacare-2-point-0-is-a-gift-to-illegals-oh-and-gop-you-lie
Abandon ship: Conservative groups turn on House GOPs ObamaCare bill
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/03/07/abandon-ship-conservative-groups-turn-on-house-gops-obamacare-bill/
GOP critics of Trump health-care plan propose ‘clean repeal’
http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/gop-critics-of-trump-health-care-plan-propose-clean-repeal/
Conservative groups blast GOP healthcare plan
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/322717-conservative-groups-blast-gop-healthcare-plan
RINOcare is NOT Repealing Obamacare; And the GOP Owns It
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/rino-care-a-more-insolvent-version-of-obamacare-except-this-time-gop-owns-it
GOP Plan Fails to Move Past Obamacares Progressive Promise
http://heritageaction.com/press-releases/gop-plan-fails-move-past-obamacares-progressive-promise/
Rand Paul: New Healthcare Plan Will Not Pass
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2017/03/07/rand-paul-new-healthcare-plan-will-not-pass-n2295161
5 Serious Problems With RINOcare
http://www.dailywire.com/news/14161/ryancare-5-serious-problems-republican-replacement-ben-shapiro
Trumps Big-Government Fixes are Giving Conservatives Indigestion
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-big-government-fixes-are-giving-conservatives-indigestion/article/2616273
Dana Loesch: We Didnt Protest Obamacare for 8 Years to Get Obamacare 2.0 From Congressional Republicans
http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/03/06/midterms-come-fast-gop-dana-loesch-slams-house-republican-rollout-of-obamacare-2-0/
Rand Paul: House GOP Healthcare Plan Will Not Pass Because its Obamacare-Lite
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rand-paul-house-gop-healthcare-plan-will-not-pass/article/2616645
Leading Conservatives TRASH Obamacare Replacement as RINOcare, Obamacare-Lite, Obamacare 2.0
http://politistick.com/leading-conservatives-grade-obamacare-replacement-big-fat-f/
Freedom Caucus Slams ObamaCare Replacement, Promises ‘Clean Repeal’
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/07/obamacare-critics-freedom-caucus-slam-replacement-will-introduce-clean-repeal-bill
TURBULENT FUTURE? Conservatives escalate fight against ObamaCare repeal bill, vow to create their own
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/07/conservatives-push-back-on-obamacare-repeal-bill-vow-to-introduce-their-own.html
Conservatives Dub Obamacare Replacement Obamacare 2.0, Obamacare-Lite
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/some-conservatives-pan-obamacare-replacement/article/2616629
Establishment RINO Squish Steve Scalise Using Slimeball Leftist Tactic to Get You to Accept Obamacare 2.0
http://politistick.com/establishment-rino-squish-steve-scalise-using-slimeball-tactics-get-accept-rinocare/
RINO House Leadership Announces Obamacare 2.0
http://ijr.com/2017/03/818591-gop-reveals-its-highly-anticipated-plan-to-replace-obamacare-here-are-the-highlights/
House Republicans Unveil RINOCare Bill & It’s DOA
http://thewashingtonstandard.com/house-republicans-unveil-rinocare-bill-doa/
House Republicans’ Obamacare Plan Lacks Party Buy-In
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/03/07/house_republicans_obamacare_plan_lacks_party_buy-in_133272.html
As GOP Introduces Obamacare Replacement, Conservatives Balk: Weve Got to Do Better
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/gop-introduces-obamacare-replacement-conservatives-balk-weve-got-do-better
Some Conservatives Balk at Obamacare Replacement
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/03/07/house_republicans_obamacare_plan_lacks_party_buy-in_133272.html
Thanks for being honest!!!!!!!!
Ryan is doing everything possible to screw us, yet save insurance companies and corporate hospitals. Whore of Babylon, or just a whore?????????
You freepers are falling for the liberal democrat trap. I work in healthcare, I design systems to handle healthcare, this is going as expected, it will work and is the way it must be done. Chill out. Trump and his team are on top of it. Trump will let us know if it isn’t what he wants. Believe me, I have to be aware for my job, I read healthcare organization newsletters, go to meetings, etc.
Rather than get crazy, either trust Trump or educate yourself on the subject. It is heavy reading and if you don’t do the homework yourself, don’t make statements you know nothing about.
His Achilles heel is his base losing faith
This did not help
At all
Does congress remove congress’ exemption from 0care?
What part of REPEAL don’t they understand?
Speaking of walking on water, here’s a joke:
President Trump invited the Pope for lunch on his mega yacht. The Pope accepted and during lunch a puff of wind blew the Pontiff’s hat off and into the water. It floated off about 30 feet, then the wind died down and it just floated in place. The crew and the secret service were scrambling to launch a boat to go get it, when Trump waved them off saying, “Never mind, boys, I’ll get it.”
The Donald climbed over the side of the yacht, walked on the water to the hat, picked it up, walked back on the water, climbed into the yacht and handed the Pope his hat.
The crew was speechless. The security team and the Pope’s entourage were speechless. No one knew what to say, not even the Pope.
But on the evening news, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, and CNN reported: “Trump can’t swim.”
So will someone please tell me, how does Ryan include the House Freedom Caucus in the group he calls The Left?
I thought he got primaried.
Go on, drink the poison.
The cure is only two phases, a wing, a prayer and an unlikely election outcome away.
What could go wrong?
What I see are peripheral details. What I want to see are the major issues:
- allow all insurance options; if I want major medical only and an insurance company wants to sell it to me, that should be allowed,
- the political problem with repeal is the number of people who have Obamacare and can be described as being hurt by the repeal, but this does not put a freeze on new Obamacare enrollments; it should put an absolute freeze on new enrollments, so that no one will “lose coverage” later,
- there is (so far) no sign of tort reform,
- if there is a free-market philosophy hidden in there, it’s too well hidden for me to find it!
I am not generally a fan of Rand Paul, but I’d rather have him write this bill than Paul Ryan. I hope this is just a negotiating stance to be followed by, “well, we tried, but the democrats wouldn’t talk, so we had to cave to conservatives in order to repeal Obamacare, which was collapsing anyways.”
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