“There is not, and never has been any evidence that the genetic disorder known as “autism” is in any way linked to vaccines.”
It has never been subject to independent investigation, but there is plenty of evidence of temporal association between vaccination and autism/Asperger’s. We parents know.
“highly regarded journal such as The Lancet”
LOL!
“Make no mistake: the anti-vax movement is a liberal movement, invented by those with the same anti-humanity sentiments as those who push abortion and the kind of radical environmentalism that would prevent all development. “
Absolute BS. Folks who question vaccines are from across the political spectrum. Homeschoolers, Christian schoolers and the Amish are part of the “liberal movement”? LOL. The best correlation with unquestioned acceptance of vaccines is that folks with the lowest education levels are the least likely to question vaccines. Folks with a college education are more likely to question. Moreover, the biggest proponents of forced vaccination are DEMOCRATS!
I remember some time ago, in another vaccine thread, that you told us that there was no aborted fetal tissue in vaccines. When called out on that (including a graphic of the vaccine insert which showed the fetal tissue) you disappeared from the conversation.
Do you derive an income from Pharma?
Do you support the elimination of conscience exemptions for vaccination?
What do you "know", exactly? A "temporal association" only means that two things happened at approximately the same time, not that one causes the other. In the case of autism, it only means that no matter at what age autism is diagnosed, a child has had a vaccination within a few months. That is because of the vaccination schedule, nothing else--no matter what happens in a young child's life, it is *always* within a few months of a vaccination.
A temporal association is significant *only* if there is a mechanism linking the two events. And in the case of vaccines, there is no mechanism--there is no plausible way by which inducing an immune response causes brain damage. If it did, we would all have severe brain damage, since we are exposed to immunogens all the time.
“highly regarded journal such as The Lancet”
LOL!
Let's see--are you laughing at the idea that The Lancet is a highly regarded journal? That only shows that you are completely unfamiliar with the world of scientific publishing. Furthermore, it raises the question of why you still seem to believe that Andrew Wakefield's fiction linking MMR vaccine and autism is credible, since it was published in a journal that you seem to think is no more reliable than The National Enquirer.
Absolute BS. Folks who question vaccines are from across the political spectrum. Homeschoolers, Christian schoolers and the Amish are part of the “liberal movement”? LOL. The best correlation with unquestioned acceptance of vaccines is that folks with the lowest education levels are the least likely to question vaccines. Folks with a college education are more likely to question. Moreover, the biggest proponents of forced vaccination are DEMOCRATS!
Read what I wrote again, carefully. I'll help you, here it is again:
“Make no mistake: the anti-vax movement is a liberal movement, invented by those with the same anti-humanity sentiments as those who push abortion and the kind of radical environmentalism that would prevent all development."
Regardless of who has fallen for anti-vax scams, the fact remains that those behind the movement still hate humanity and regard causing as many deaths as possible an important cause. This is because they consider overpopulation a grave threat to the planet, and believe that more childhood deaths equates to a lower population (it doesn't, but they believe that). In any case, if someone is urging you not to provide life-saving medical treatments to your children, you should be suspicious of *their* motives, not the motives of those offering the life-saving treatments.
BTW, the Amish do, in fact, get vaccinated.
I remember some time ago, in another vaccine thread, that you told us that there was no aborted fetal tissue in vaccines. When called out on that (including a graphic of the vaccine insert which showed the fetal tissue) you disappeared from the conversation.
I only "disappear" from conversations when I judge that the likelihood of anyone (other than the person addressed in the To: box) seeing my response is virtually nil. It can take me an hour or more to compose my response, because I actually have to fact-check to make sure that what I post is accurate. There is also the little issue that I work 50 hours or more per week, and do not have unlimited amounts of time to debunk anti-vax kookery.
That said, I have, in fact, already addressed the claim that there is fetal tissue in vaccines several times. Not that I expect you (or anyone else) to read every single one of my posts on the topic. But I will go over this again:
Vaccines are grown by infecting cell lines with the disease. The viruses are then extracted from the cell culture medium and either killed or attenuated (depending on the vaccine type) to make the vaccine. The vaccine does not contain any cell material other than the virus itself.
A cell line is an immortal population of cells that will continue to grow as long as they are fed properly and kept in a rigidly climate-controlled incubator. Although the cell lines are developed from cells taken from a live human (or animal), they are not a living human (or animal). They are only cells, which are tiny organisms that do not feel or think.
The fetal cell lines that are used in vaccine production were developed from fetuses that were murdered over 40 years ago. The cells that are currently used are not fetuses and have never been part of a fetal body. They also do not have the capability to become fetuses.
In some cases, you have the option to select a vaccine that was not produced in a fetal cell line--it is up to you to do the research to find those vaccines. But even when the only vaccine available was grown in those cell lines, the Catholic church has stated that use of the vaccines is acceptable since not using them causes grave risk to human health.
In addition, many researchers currently working on vaccine development avoid using fetal cell lines because they recognize the problems that a majority of people have with abortion.
Do you derive an income from Pharma?
Ah, the stock attempt to discredit someone because they work in an industry for which they are trained and educated. Using your logic, pilots are the last people in the world you should listen to on the topic of whether it is safe to fly in hurricanes. And you should never listen to construction engineers when trying to decide where and how to construct a building. Because, according to you, an expert who makes money applying their expert knowledge should never be consulted or trusted on the topic of their expertise. Why do you post on a conservative message board when you loathe the idea that people might profit from working in the area in which they are qualified?
Do you support the elimination of conscience exemptions for vaccination?
Since the diseases prevented by vaccines are highly communicable, absolutely. Because although you think that your decision to expose your children to potentially deadly diseases affects only your children, you are, in fact, making that decision for other people's children. Parents of children who are too young to be vaccinated or who cannot be vaccinated due to immune system disorders typically do not appreciate the fact that you are endangering their children. And children have died because of anti-vaxxers.