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We Used Terrible Science to Justify Smoking Bans
Slate ^ | 2-13-17 | Jacob Grier

Posted on 02/13/2017 5:49:16 PM PST by DeweyCA

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A decade later, comprehensive smoking bans have proliferated globally. And now that the evidence has had time to accumulate, it’s also become clear that the extravagant promises made by anti-smoking groups—that implementing bans would bring about extraordinary improvements in cardiac health—never materialized. Newer, better studies with much larger sample sizes have found little to no correlation between smoking bans and short-term incidence of heart attacks, and certainly nothing remotely close to the 60 percent reduction that was claimed in Helena. The updated science debunks the alarmist fantasies that were used to sell smoking bans to the public, allowing for a more sober analysis suggesting that current restrictions on smoking are extreme from a risk-reduction standpoint.

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When the Helena study and its heirs were originally published, a few scientists noted that the results were wildly implausible and the methodologies deeply flawed. Yet their criticism was generally ignored. Studies reporting miraculous declines in heart attacks made global headlines; when better studies came along contradicting those results, they barely registered a blip in the media.

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There were good reasons from the beginning to doubt that smoking bans could really deliver the promised results, but anti-smoking advocacy groups eagerly embraced alarmism to shape public perception. Today’s tobacco control movement is guided by ideology as much as it is by science, prone to hyping politically convenient studies regardless of their merit and ostracizing detractors.

This has important implications for journalism. As health journalists take on topics such as outdoor smoking bans, discrimination against smokers in employment or adoption, and the ever-evolving regulation of e-cigarettes, they should consider that however well-intentioned the aims of the tobacco control movement are, its willingness to sacrifice the means of good science to the end of restricting behavior calls for skeptical scrutiny.

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To: DeweyCA

Gives me migraines I thank God for no smoking indoors


61 posted on 02/13/2017 6:51:07 PM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: A CA Guy

Restaurants here in Nevada had separate smoking and non-smoking areas. There was a clear and ventilated area for non-smokers.


62 posted on 02/13/2017 6:53:14 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: DeweyCA

Tobacco is evil. If you so called Free pers think addiction to a cancer causing product is so very wonderful then I think you should reconsider your thought processes. Seriously, how many of you are still smoking and or chewing?! Talk about stupid.


63 posted on 02/13/2017 6:55:34 PM PST by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: glenduh

Smell of syrup, vanilla, cooking meat or musk make me gag. Olfactory senses differ.

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Probably due to smoking damage.


64 posted on 02/13/2017 6:55:39 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Stosh
second hand smoke was the deadliest threat since mustard gas.

It's actually pretty bad. With two parents who smoked growing up I had no idea that one didn't have to feel constantly nauseous riding in a car.

65 posted on 02/13/2017 6:58:50 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: DeweyCA

It’s not about smoking, or guns, or climate, or health, or aerosol propellent, et al ad naseam, it’s about CONTROL!


66 posted on 02/13/2017 7:00:22 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I thank God, Broom Hillary was stopped. Now, moving on, I pray for Trump.)
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To: Trumpet 1

I rest my case.


67 posted on 02/13/2017 7:02:08 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Moonman62

I bet myself you would say that. I won! But no. Even as a child before I began the nasty habit, some things never agreed with me. Perhaps I am damaged.


68 posted on 02/13/2017 7:02:12 PM PST by glenduh
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To: Moonman62

I bet myself you would say that. I won! But no. Even as a child before I began the nasty habit, some things never agreed with me. Perhaps I am damaged.


69 posted on 02/13/2017 7:02:16 PM PST by glenduh
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To: A CA Guy

So go to a non smoking restaurant.

It’s called “freedom”. Look into it sometime.

L


70 posted on 02/13/2017 7:05:06 PM PST by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: Trump20162020; All

In this case, follow the money. Lawyers were never able to make a case against tobacco companies, because tort law had existed for hundreds of years, and they could not prove their case.

To get around the law, they bribed legislators to *change the liability standards*. The state legislators then got a cut of the money.

Billions went to the liability lawyers from cigarette taxes. A great deal of it is used to fund “progressive” causes.


71 posted on 02/13/2017 7:07:54 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: glenduh

I’ve heard of houses being rehabbed because the previous owners were smokers, but never because the previous owners baked cookies. Best of luck to you.


72 posted on 02/13/2017 7:11:07 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: A CA Guy

>Their habit should not intermingle with non-smokers.

Just like your habits should never cross paths with those of different opinion.

Facts be darned. The EPA wants you.


73 posted on 02/13/2017 7:14:30 PM PST by soycd
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To: DeweyCA

The advantage is not cardiac but cleaner air in the restaurants.


74 posted on 02/13/2017 7:34:13 PM PST by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: nopardons

Don’t interfear with psychosis. It dangerous like waking a sleepwalking smoker or is it a smoking sleepwalker. People just love to control their neighbors. Group think has killed more people than cigarettes and Hitler combined. Yeah I went there.


75 posted on 02/13/2017 7:37:24 PM PST by wgmalabama (I was for Sessions before the country knew his name,)
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To: boop

According to federal regulation on federal property, if using a nicotine patch, you must be in an approved smoking area. No joke. Read then. Chew, dip, vape, smoking, any nicotine product can only be used in an area marked or designated for smoking. Dumb ass busy bodies, control freaks can’t think worth a shit.


76 posted on 02/13/2017 7:46:39 PM PST by wgmalabama (I was for Sessions before the country knew his name,)
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To: Trumpet 1

Are you fat, ugly, stupid, mean, ... I’m sure your the very picture of virtue. I can tell from your post. No vices at all?


77 posted on 02/13/2017 7:49:35 PM PST by wgmalabama (I was for Sessions before the country knew his name,)
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To: DeweyCA

Rush addressed this today. He posits, that it is due to the push for legalization of pot across the fruited plain. Can’t smoke pot where ever and when ever you like, if you’ve got those atuquated smoking bans in place.

And he points out that; people who smoke pot don’t mind the second hand smoke, because; breathing it all in is kind of the point.


78 posted on 02/13/2017 7:55:50 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: dhs12345

That’s OK, the Right does the same in reverse, so it all balances out.


79 posted on 02/13/2017 7:59:21 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Boomer

No, that poster is an hysteric; what was posted is patently ridiculous and impossible to boot. Go read it again.


80 posted on 02/13/2017 8:04:50 PM PST by nopardons
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