Posted on 02/13/2017 5:49:16 PM PST by DeweyCA
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A decade later, comprehensive smoking bans have proliferated globally. And now that the evidence has had time to accumulate, it’s also become clear that the extravagant promises made by anti-smoking groups—that implementing bans would bring about extraordinary improvements in cardiac health—never materialized. Newer, better studies with much larger sample sizes have found little to no correlation between smoking bans and short-term incidence of heart attacks, and certainly nothing remotely close to the 60 percent reduction that was claimed in Helena. The updated science debunks the alarmist fantasies that were used to sell smoking bans to the public, allowing for a more sober analysis suggesting that current restrictions on smoking are extreme from a risk-reduction standpoint.
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When the Helena study and its heirs were originally published, a few scientists noted that the results were wildly implausible and the methodologies deeply flawed. Yet their criticism was generally ignored. Studies reporting miraculous declines in heart attacks made global headlines; when better studies came along contradicting those results, they barely registered a blip in the media.
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There were good reasons from the beginning to doubt that smoking bans could really deliver the promised results, but anti-smoking advocacy groups eagerly embraced alarmism to shape public perception. Today’s tobacco control movement is guided by ideology as much as it is by science, prone to hyping politically convenient studies regardless of their merit and ostracizing detractors.
This has important implications for journalism. As health journalists take on topics such as outdoor smoking bans, discrimination against smokers in employment or adoption, and the ever-evolving regulation of e-cigarettes, they should consider that however well-intentioned the aims of the tobacco control movement are, its willingness to sacrifice the means of good science to the end of restricting behavior calls for skeptical scrutiny.
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(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...
Smoking helped in the maintenance of pressurized aircraft. It was simple to find the pressure leaks by the nicotine stains left in the areas that needed sealing.
Now, not so easy to find.
G. K. Chesterton
Ha! Yes!
Only the finest foreign and domestic blends.
Well duh.
It was a government-funded propaganda blitz to justify their passing smoking bans. Now that these bans are in place, with little chance of repeal, they can openly admit it was fabricated junk science.
Global warming “research” is the same deal.
To each their own. I love the smell of cigs, cigars, pipes and e cigs. Especially the smell of a good cigar.
It’s all about packaging. Don’t forget the MSM are far lefties who paint whatever leftist they like......... and they like them all.
Vape is probably dangerous. Pot is dangerous if smoked. Crack will kill you. Kids are trying hookahs for some weird reason. Most coal miners will have lung problems. Both of my grandfathers died young of pneumonia so I suggest staying away actually far away from smoke. Both grandpas didn’t smoke. So second hand smoke overblown but useful. As CNN would say fake but accurate.
But there was the ceiling :(
Back in the day, lucky me, I was always stuck in the non-smoking section right next to the smoking section with the clouds flowing over the so called barrier.
I stayed in a smoking room once while I was overseas. Most miserable night of sleep my whole life. Plus, it permeated and saturated my clothes and belongings. And I don't and didn't smoke! It was in a humid area and added to a damp, moldy, acrid smell. Yuck!
Around 3am, I couldn't take it anymore and demanded that I be moved. It was a mix-up at the hotel.
Hitler was the first to ban smoking in public.
Some pipe tobacco doesn’t smell too bad initially, and vapor is an entirely different category. But to a non-smoker that hasn’t lost his sense of smell due to smoking, most tobacco smells worse than a smoldering manure pit. And like I said, it gets all over everything and lingers for years.
Anybody who’s rehabbed a smoker’s house will tell you that some things have to be replaced like flooring, and the walls have to be sealed with a non-permeable primer.
Tobacco bump
Ed
I smoke and have a sense of smell. Can smell a litter box immediately. Smell of syrup, vanilla, cooking meat or musk make me gag. Olfactory senses differ.
It is possible. The fumes get into the vents and carpeting. If the walls aren’t painted with Killz, a blocking paint that prevents the nicotine from oozing through, it can surface.
Granted, it would likely take someone more sensitive to it than normal, but it is very possible.
I smoked for 24 years off and on. Quitting was really difficult for me. I was so glad when I moved from CA to AZ in 2000 so I could smoke freely again but one year after moving I started coughing like crazy from smoking and probably from living a mile high up in the mountains. For me the smoking lamp went out permanently. I had to switch to chew for a year before I could finally quit that too. It really wasn’t a choice for me. I loved smoking but smoking didn’t love me. Now I try to avoid it at all costs. Even walking by someone smoking is annoying. His right and I wouldn’t ever want to see that change; but the aroma is not pleasant to me any longer. For a long time it didn’t phase me at all but over time I noticed it was bothering me more and more.
Bump!
No such thing as second hand tobacco juice.
It is all about CONTROL.
"It looks icky to me, so YOU can't do it."
“It should be left up to the property owner. If a restaurant owner wants to have a smoking restaurant that should be his choice and nonsmokers are free to go elsewhere. Likewise if he wants a nonsmoking establishment, he should be free to do so as well, and smokers can go elsewhere or smoke outside. Nanny government should not be dictating.”
Bravo. I agree 1,000%.
Well, I don’t know about heart attacks and lung cancer, the only people I know who had either were non-smokers.
I do know three people who developed Parkinson’s after they quit smoking. I do know people who lost their jobs after smoking bans went into effect in bars who served food. I do know and have experienced discrimination as a smoker.
I do sincerely believe that many of the anti-smoking laws are outright discrimination and should have never been allowed.
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