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To: abb; meyer; Repeal The 17th; KC Burke; janetjanet998; Jim 0216; Ray76; EternalHope
New FERC Filing by FOR, Sierra Club - DWR's incorrect assessments (failure of ES hillside) - Secrecy - ES Hillside Armor request - Politics of 1960's engineering decision losing "safe redundancy"

New Federal Energy Regulatory Commission filing documents detailing issues pertinent to the current Oroville Repair/Recovery Crisis. These documents detail the conflicting statements by DWR & the CA Division of Safety of Dams (DSOD) with the actual dangerous erosion of the Emergency Spillway. DWR & DSOD stated that the hillside was adequate - proven significantly incorrect. These documents filed to FERC also identify the concerns of secrecy in the new construction repair/recovery process - that it is inadequate for concerned citizens (public) to have proper access & review. Notes that the volume of rock in the large area of the spillway should not be hidden as secret via CEII, in addition to noting that such rock would be of little interest to "an attack".

Documents reveal the significance of the 1960's political engineering decision to create a separate Emergency Spillway instead of working out the kinks in getting a fully armored "Combined & Delta Main + Emergency Spillway design" perfected. By DWR making this "engineering" switch to an Emergency Spillway that was "deemed" to be very rare in its use, this decision has come back to haunt the dam design. This decision created the dangerous problem of the loss of a "safe redundant" spillway in case the main spillway had a breakdown. All for the sake of "deeming" the Emergency Spillway would likely not be used except in very rare circumstances - in that the Probable Maximum Flood (PMF) would be so rare that the use of the Emergency Spillway would be 10,000 years or greater. What was not included in this decision was a failure of the main spillway. The Emergency Spillway needs to be a "safe backup" or "redundancy" to cover this contingency.

These documents re-inforce the engineering culture pitfalls of the "politics of engineering" decisions that must not occur in exceptionally critical infrastructure. These documents also demonstrate the continued defense by DWR & DSOD of the 1960's decision in stating the Emergency Hillside was adequate for use. Thus the reinforcement of the poor engineering competency is again revealed in the "loss of safe redundancy" by the first go-around in defending against armoring the hillside in a prior FERC filing & review. Now, today, we have DWR & DSOD complicit in poor engineering competency in revealing yet again a non-safe redundant emergency spillway. This design will not safely operate 369,000 cfs, (a required spill rate spec by the Board Of Consultants), as the apron does not protect the full hillside down to the Feather River.

How many times will this poor engineering competency set of "reasoned away" PMF excuses be used? Yet, the real use of the ES has been for "safe redundancy" - of which it failed spectacularly & will so in the future as the new concept design stands.

note: Blue & red underlining markups, arrows, & comments added for discussion notation - not part of the original document.

Image 1: Newly Filed FERC Submittal of doc 20170419-5231 - Request of Friends of the River, CSPA, American Whitewater, SYRCL, and Sierra Club for clarification of licensing/dam-safety proceedings/process and for a public process at Project 2100 reconstruction.


Image 2: Newly Filed FERC Submittal of doc 20170419-5231 - Request of Friends of the River, CSPA, American Whitewater, SYRCL, and Sierra Club for clarification of licensing/dam-safety proceedings/process and for a public process at Project 2100 reconstruction.


Image 3: Newly Filed FERC Submittal of doc 20170419-5231 - Request of Friends of the River, CSPA, American Whitewater, SYRCL, and Sierra Club for clarification of licensing/dam-safety proceedings/process and for a public process at Project 2100 reconstruction.


Image 4: Newly Filed FERC Submittal of doc 20170419-5231 - Request of Friends of the River, CSPA, American Whitewater, SYRCL, and Sierra Club for clarification of licensing/dam-safety proceedings/process and for a public process at Project 2100 reconstruction.



3,216 posted on 04/21/2017 9:36:58 AM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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check out these two points....

• The controlled blasting produces little to no audible noise or vibrations.
• Seismographs will be located throughout the project area so engineers can monitor
movements and to make sure recorded vibrations are within safe levels.


so which is it? No vibrations or enough vibration they have to place equipment to monitor them to make sure the vibrations are not too strong?


3,217 posted on 04/21/2017 11:26:06 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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The US Bureau of Reclamation distinguishes three classes of spillway. Friends of the River et al., refer to the Oroville spillway as an auxiliary spillway, the design docs call it an emergency spillway.

3.1.1 Spillways

[] There are three classifications of spillways typically employed by Reclamation, which are based on frequency of use. They are explained in more detail in the following sections.

3.2.1.1 Service Spillway

A service spillway provides continuous, or frequent regulated, or staged releases5 (controlled) or unregulated (uncontrolled) releases from a reservoir without significant damage to the dam, dike, or appurtenant structures due to releases up to and including the maximum design discharge. Service spillways are typically very robust, erosion-resistant structures consisting of mostly cast-in-place reinforced concrete and riprap channel protection. Some examples of service spillways are illustrated in figure 3.2.1.1-1.

3.2.1.2 Auxiliary Spillway

An auxiliary spillway is infrequently used and may be a secondary spillway (augmenting a service spillway discharge capacity). During operation there could be some degree of structural damage or erosion to the auxiliary spillway due to releases up to and including the maximum design discharge. Auxiliary spillways may be less robust, erosion-resistant structures consisting of some cast-in-place reinforced concrete, riprap channel protection and/or unarmored excavated channels. Some examples of auxiliary spillways are illustrated in figure 3.2.1.2-1.

3.2.1.3 Emergency Spillway

An emergency spillway is designed to provide additional protection against overtopping of a dam and/or dike and is intended for use under unusual or extreme conditions such as misoperation or malfunction of the service spillway or outlet works during very large, remote floods (such as the PMF), or other emergency conditions. As with auxiliary spillways, some degree of structural damage and/or erosion may be expected due to releases up to and including the maximum design discharge. Emergency spillways are the least robust, erosion-resistant structures consisting of some cast-in-place reinforced concrete, riprap channel protection, and/or unarmored excavated channels. Some examples of service spillways are illustrated in figure 3.2.1.3-1.

https://www.usbr.gov/tsc/techreferences/designstandards-datacollectionguides/finalds-pdfs/DS14-3.pdf#page=18

see generally https://www.usbr.gov/tsc/techreferences/designstandards-datacollectionguides/designstandards.html#final


3,218 posted on 04/21/2017 12:03:09 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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the 1960's political engineering decision...the [ES] apron does not protect the full hillside down to the Feather River.

It would be interesting to see the relevant minutes (if there were any and if they haven't been destroyed by now) of meetings where this was being debated (?) and decided. Can't you just picture at least one person in the proceedings objecting to compromising the exceptionally critical dam by not armoring the ES?

3,223 posted on 04/21/2017 2:05:02 PM PDT by Jim W N
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