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To: abb; Grampa Dave; Jim 0216; maggief; Mariner; Ray76; daisy12; janetjanet998; LucyT; Yaelle; ...
>>Feedback on your Sketch + Construction modifications of Main Spillway Drain System...

Hi abb, I would alter your sketch to angle the horizontal drain pipes upslope. Although the original design stated "horizontal pipe drains" (1)(2) , they were "redesigned" or modified during actual construction to be angled upslope - denoted as a "herringbone pattern" (3). The yellow highlighted archives describe the angled slope (downward) into a "Longitudinal collector system". The modifications of angling in addition to resizing the drain pipe to 6 inches allowed for "increase in flow capacity" and "its self-cleaning ability". Makes sense.

The drainage system depended on a "foundation" beneath the concrete slabs with gravel "enveloping the drain pipe" to facilitate the collection of water. Line item (4) infers that the pipe was partially encased into the concrete floor of the chute, but surrounded (enveloped) by gravel. Early photographs of the Main Spillway bed show a compacted layer of aggregate and/or gravel at the top of the Main Spillway outlet gate area. Construction archives do not define the extent or thickness of this layer & if this layer was continuous underneath the full length Main Spillway. The only term used is "foundation". (Insiders with further info - invited here to chime in…).



2,117 posted on 03/01/2017 7:46:46 PM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: abb; Grampa Dave; Jim 0216; maggief; Mariner; Ray76; daisy12; janetjanet998; LucyT; Yaelle; ...
>>SUPER QUAD CATS - OROVILLE DAM DIGGING UP HISTORY..

Super Tractors - a dual D9 tractor became a workhorse for clearing the Oroville Dam Spillway. Clip below from Peterson Caterpillar History. Images reveal "side saddle" operator controls for the earlier prototypes. These tandem linked tractors were used with dual ripper shanks to rip down to rock. These tractors also were used to "push assist" the earth mover "DW20 pull-scrapers". This is an interesting legacy of history tied to Oroville and the progression of Caterpillar innovation.

http://www.petersoncat.com/history/oroville-dam

= = excerpt: Building the Oroville Dam

Oroville Dam – one of the greatest water projects in California history, was completed in May 1968. It is the keystone of California’s $2.2 billion State Water Project, built in the 60s and 70s to provide water for arid Southern California. Oroville began in 1957 with the relocation of U.S. Hwy 40 and the Western Pacific RR which both ran right through the future reservoir’s lakebed.

Oroville Dam was where Peterson cut its teeth on in combining traditional product support with innovative custom fabrication. Five years earlier (1957) Peterson had been awarded the northern territory belonging to Sierra Tractor because Caterpillar felt Peterson was better equipped to handle the large-scale water projects than the local ag-dominant dealer. Trinity Dam was followed by Whiskeytown Dam (both near Redding) and in 1962, the mammoth Oroville Dam construction officially began.

The job veered away from conventional construction methods when the bid winner – Oman Construction out of Nashville – decided to transport fill materials using a railroad system rather than trucks and scrapers. “We were gambling on some of our contractors getting Oroville Dam,” recalls Howard Peterson. “We went to the bid opening in Sacramento and an unheard-of, out-of-state contractor, was low bidder. We were sick.” Howard and Buster immediately flew back to Nashville to meet Bill Oman. “We had a very warm reception. He took us into his home and practically treated us like sons.” Two days later, Howard left Tennessee with a large machine order and the beginnings of a promising work relationship with Oroville’s lead contractor.

Peterson fine-tuned its large fleet product support system, begun at Trinity, by providing a fully stocked, onsite parts trailer that was serviced daily from the new Chico store. Resident mechanics and round-the-clock service were also part of the package, along with a 60-piece order of new machines and rental equipment, which included: ten D9s, some D8s and compactors, 20 bottom-dump wagons powered by 660 tractors, four 660 scrapers, some 988 wheel loaders, a couple No. 16 motor graders and six rental DW20 (pull-scrapers). Everything used on that job was CAT, if CAT made it at the time.

The scope and difficulty of the project really put Peterson to the test in terms of whether to supply the traditional means or really step up and be progressive and offer new solutions to head-scratching problems. According to Western Construction magazine’s October 1966 issue, “Buster’s Quad D9s were the star of the show on the $20 million spillway.

Excavation of some 4 million cubic yards of solid rock made it one of the biggest ripping jobs in the West at the time. One million yards of that material had to be ripped using various methods, including Peterson’s new Quad D9 arrangement, outfitted with two 10-ft shanks, each with 4-ft extensions. The rock was so hard that when points and shanks wore out, they simply replaced rather than rebuilt them. Also new on the dam portion of the project was CAT’s new hydraulic 660 tractors pulling Buster’s 97-ton Athey rock wagons [patent # 3185528] designed especially with hydraulic actuating hopper doors for Oroville”.

Along with new equipment innovations, Peterson made heavy use of its parts drop system, begun at Trinity Dam to expedite the heavy parts demands. Oroville was the main reason for bringing the nightly shuttle truck up north, according to retired shuttle truck driver, Fred Knowles who clocked over 3 million miles on the road for Peterson.

Today, Oroville still stands as the tallest earth-fill dam in the United States and among the top 20 in the world. The job was considered the most highly automated of its kind in the 1960s, involving an astounding volume and variety of equipment, much of it specially designed. Aside from the traditional CAT equipment used on the job, Oman employed several of Buster's innovations including the Quad D9s, the Athey bottom-dumps and the tandem 631 compactor.

BIG Magazine stated that, “if the material for the dam was moved by wheelbarrows, placed end-to-end, they would extend to the moon and back. More than 1.5 million RR cars made the trip from the tailing dump to the dam – enough to circle the globe at the equator, several times. The RR handled more than 300 million gross tons, more than several of the nation’s largest commercial railroads combined.” In other words, Oroville was, and still is, considered one of the construction marvels of the heavy construction industry.




2,120 posted on 03/01/2017 8:19:58 PM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: EarthResearcher333

OK
“I don’t understand all I know about this.”
(that is a quote from an old engineer I used to know)
So, there is a drainage system underneath the slabs on the main spillway,
and the drains (what?-perforated pipe?) collect any seepage/leakage
and route it over to the sides and up through the sidewalls
and discharge back onto the spillway
(seems like a lot of head pressure required to do that)
But when you note some of these discharges are not running
it is an indication that the drain system has failed...
but...
wouldn’t that seepage/leakage just be picked up by the next set of drains?
-
(you need to dumb-down this for me !)
Thanks for all of your input.


2,121 posted on 03/01/2017 8:24:16 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: EarthResearcher333; abb
they were "redesigned" or modified during actual construction to be angled upslope

Why would a drain pipe point uphill?

2,148 posted on 03/02/2017 10:31:20 AM PST by Jim W N
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