It's all safe now. Expect heavy traffic on the way back in to town. The spillway has been thoroughly inspected. It wasn't the government's fault. Doubleplusgood!
Posted on 02/12/2017 4:26:47 PM PST by janetjanet998
Edited on 02/12/2017 9:33:58 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
cheers
This was all caused *solely* by not releasing water quickly enough.
Reasons for not doing that:
To protect the main spillway, which was known to already be weakened/damaged.
To protect the downstream levees from increased flow.
To keep a high level in the reservoir (yeah, pretty stupid but that’s the viewpoint they’ve had for a long time).
Also, this may have been an intentional effort to briefly test the emergency spillway in case it had to be used.
Excellent points mag...and with all that being true, why didn’t the governor include Oroville dam in the request he submitted for Trump’s infrastructure plans? I read today he put a bunch of projects on it...but not the dam that supplies 2/3 of the states’ water. I don’t get it. Plus, until this happened it was a relatively modest $6m repair/rehab.
Now praying that there will turn out to be no reason for worry.
ProFryan
Posted: Today 7:36:58 PM EST
Looks like they will have room for about 3 inches of rain on the watershed
And, protect the little fishies.
True; that’s another “(yeah, pretty stupid but that’s the viewpoint they’ve had for a long time)”.
They’ve got room in the reservoir for another 1/4 million acre feet of water now , and will probably have room for close to a million by the time the rain comes. If anyone wants to doublecheck the estimate you gave.
Unconfirmed report:
https://www.peakprosperity.com/comment/204051#comment-204051
BREAKING: Another Failure Point Just Reared Its Head
From our source (an anonymous command team member) on site at Oroville:
The debris from the erosion in the primary spillway, combined with the debris from the use of the emergency spillway, has collected where those spillways run off into the Feather River.
This is causing the waters to back up towards the dam itself, and have flooded the power station there. In addition, a wall associated with the power station is about to fail, which will add to the damage/destruction to the facility.
So now things have become a lot worse:
The power station is not going to be operational again for a long time. And will likely be very costly to repair/rebuild.
The 17,000 cfps outlet for the dam located near the power station is now no longer an option. Given that, and given that the emergency spillway is in such dire shape, the compromised primary spillway is now the only option for reducing the water level behind the dam.
The turbulence of the waters swirling around the spillway debris may likely increase the erosion factor of the dam’s earthen berm, increasing the odds for a catastrophic failure.
We’ll report more as we learn of it.
5-8” expected not including snowmelt.
Whoever the guy is that posted the “the dam is not going to make it” video is at the work area and entrance is restricted. It doesn’t look like a hoax. I think these guys are trying to get the word out.
The CA legislature is majority Democrat. Republicans have no power in this state. The legislature demanded an audit of the high speed train project since it is way over budget with little to show for it and Brown said no.
When you have a Dem state senate leader openly brag that his family is here illegally with forged documents and a governor who outright defies an audit request by his own party, we are in third world level corruption. These guys are MIA in this crisis and I’m starting to wonder if they are en route to places outside the country. Maybe we are not that bad yet but I think we are close.
If you'll just click that link I posted earlier, it'll ask if you wanna download it.
Just click the green button.
National Guard was put on notice in the last day or so. All 23,000 of them.
maggief wrote:
“ProFryan
Posted: Today 7:36:58 PM EST
Looks like they will have room for about 3 inches of rain on the watershed”
And more than that is forecasted...
Inches.
Three INCHES!!!
From what I gather, the concrete spillway has degraded and there are now large cavitation holes in the concrete which have exposed the earth fill base to serious erosion.
When reporters try to ‘splain anything involving engineering or science, it is difficult to figure out what is really happening; but, apparently the penetration of the spillway concrete is why they are dumping super bags of large boulders into the spillway from helicopters.
It's all safe now. Expect heavy traffic on the way back in to town. The spillway has been thoroughly inspected. It wasn't the government's fault. Doubleplusgood!
That dude is a hero, Periscoping from his iPhone 6 Plus zip-tied to a stick.
No media anywhere!
He was streaming what was actually happening while DWR was giving BS presser updates.
Amazing.
there’s more like her and unfortunately, they vote.
HA!
ps. Interesting to see Scott Cahill posing there.
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