[dragnet2]

The planter class wasn’t alien to the rest of the South, they were part of it.

In CA, the big corp (plantation) owners just import their low wage illegal planter class. Their part of it too, in fact claim they own it and also support seceding from the rest of the country. This is like the old south but in warped 2017 leftist style.

[Pelham]

VDH needs to read Owsley's Plain Folk of the Old South and give up his half-baked Marxist analysis.

The only similarity is the talk of secession. What's going on here is no more the same as South Carolina in 1860 than it is of New England flirting with secession in 1804 and 1814.