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To: fishtank

Because fishtank and other young-earth creationists fail to see that real science is constantly refining its models, to ever more closely approximate truth? The truth that God himself has written into the fabric of the universe?


3 posted on 02/08/2017 8:43:07 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

we have a winner!


8 posted on 02/08/2017 8:46:08 AM PST by babble-on
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To: backwoods-engineer

Well said, sir.


11 posted on 02/08/2017 8:48:34 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: backwoods-engineer

Einstein was said to have spent the last years of his life looking for God in math and physics. He thought math was God’s language I think.


26 posted on 02/08/2017 9:09:14 AM PST by enduserindy (I always smile when my competition doubles down on stupid.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I think there is more evidence that gravity pushes than there is that it pulls.


34 posted on 02/08/2017 9:21:24 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

From the article:

“Moreover, it was noted even earlier that:

“[a]n alternative possibility … can explain the observations as a fluke of cosmological geometry. It avoids invoking dark energy as an ad hoc cause but at the price of throwing out the Copernican principle: roughly speaking, it puts the Earth, or at least our galaxy, back at the centre of the observable universe.”11

The Copernican principle is, of course, an arbitrary condition imposed on the interpretation of cosmological observations in order to avoid the possibility that the Earth has a unique location in the universe, something one might conclude from reading Genesis.”


39 posted on 02/08/2017 9:49:40 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: backwoods-engineer; marktwain; babble-on

Ah, yes, “real science” (coupled with a condescending and derisive digression):

Science, so called, is practiced by human beings: fallible and, I argue, fallen. The Scientific Method is merely a tool, not a lord. It is often misused or, worse, abused. (See Trofim Lysenko.) To paraphrase Spock on computers, The Scientific Method makes an excellent and efficient servant; but I have no wish to serve under it.

The Evolutionary Theory, for example, is not a theory; it is a veritable patchwork quilt of unverifiable and non-replicable hypotheses, and every time it fails the test, they just sew in a new patch. (See the Coelacanth.) It will never be subjected to the same rigorous treatment many real theories are, for the sake of its social, political, and spiritual presuppositions and implications.

My favorite recollection of such is my first Biology instructor at university, who repeatedly said, “Given time and chance, we are confident that...” [evolutionary thinking would be validated someday, someway]. Those happen to be the words of faith, not the words of fact.

Global Cooling/Global Warming/Climate Change adherents are “constantly refining” their “models” too - and for the sake of some of the same presuppositions and implications that the evolutionary fanatics do.

Regardless, the model never equals the reality - never!

People like you may give lip service to that idea, but I suggest (since you were directly or indirectly being insulting to my kind first) that you really, truly do not adhere to that:

You think that there is a scientific Holy Grail out there, just waiting to be found. I am not looking for a UFT because, even if one is found, it will still be just a model: God already made the Real Thing. If they find one, and it is of some pragmatic use, fine. But I do not worship a mathematical equation.

Science is not God; God is God.

By the bye: I will match my scientific and mathematical awards, my theological experience, and my certified intelligence quotient, against any of yours.

(Yes, I speak as a fool - as Saul cum Paul would say: Sometimes gratuitously obnoxious intellectual elitists affect me that way.)

Here is a hint to all three of you: Do not start out with the assumption that because another person disagrees with your position, it is because that other person does not understand “real science”: That is not only arrogant, it is fallacious.


55 posted on 02/08/2017 2:22:15 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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