[tcrlaf]

Most of California is till American.

The Bay area counties would likely become the Independent State of California Del Norte. For the sake of simplicity, well call it “Sodom”.

The La Basin and Valley areas would likely become the Mexican State of California Sud., a.k.a. “Gomorrah”.

[drpix]

They’ll have half a million signatures from south of the border by tomorrow morning.

[backwoods-engineer]

I should vacation in California and volunteer to collect signatures for them. I want them to leave the union.

... because they'll fall into anarchy in short order. Then, America can invade them, conquer them, change their constitution, make them a Federal territory run directly by Congress, convert their people to Christianity, and basically rub their noses in it for a hundred years, just like the Roundhead Yankees did to the South.

[cherry]

do they need volunteers?..I can free up my schedule...

[UCANSEE2]

The group needs 585,407 signatures from registered voters over the next 180 days to qualify for the ballot.

Do they also have to be registered LEGAL American Citizens ?

[marktwain]

There is precedent for this.

They vote to secede.

The President says you may not do so.

They attempt to take a federal installation, say, San Diego Naval base.

The rest of the Union declares the state in rebellion.

They are conquered, subjugated, and subject to federal military administration and reconstruction for years.

It could work.

Republicans have the most experience with this.

[Sergio]

Thinking of this from the perspective of democrat party operatives, I say go for it. It will just make it harder for democrats to win elections.

The democrat party will not allow 55 electoral votes to just go away.

I say let it happen so we can watch when the democrat party, at the national and state level, stomps on the secession organizers necks to make sure this will not happen.

The California libs will splinter giving conservatives a chance to turn the state red, or at the very least, putting the state in play for future presidential elections.

[Fiddlstix]

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[Fhios]

It’s all political theory and mental masturbation.

California will not leave the union without violence.

[ClearBlueSky]

Hey, if all the illegals who voted for Hillary sign this they will get MILLIONS of signatures! No ID or vetting needed, of course- that would be unfair. Surely PROOF of residency is not required! So we can ALL sign!!

On second thought, can the elite pick up the payments on all those illegals' US government freebies? Or will they ship them to the US, as Mexico has?

[JPJones]

“If all of this sounds very fringe, keep in mind that a recent poll found 32% of Californians supported the idea of secession.”

Do they know they’ll lose their foodstamps?

[miss marmelstein]

I’m trying to figure out who is going to be their General Lee, Longstreet, Jeb Stuart and Jackson. I’m sure it is so easy to leave the Union with a bunch of transsexuals troops out of San Francisco and West Hollywood.

[Teacher317]

Only 55% is required? I’m all for regions that wish to be independent to have the power to peacefully choose to do so.... but sticking 45% of a population with a new government that they didn’t want or choose seems really high. I would think that the requirement should be at least 65%, more likely 75% or higher. A super-majority, at least, for such an extreme course of action.... and maybe also a clause that says that they cannot be readmitted for 10 years, and readmittance would come with numerous penalties and costs.

[sappy]

dems would never let this happen. those 55 baked in electoral votes are their only chance at winning ever again. that being said, GOP could use 55 less electoral votes in the Dem caufer to start.

[mad puppy]

going to need a bigger wall.

[lizma2]

Doesn’t much of their water come from other states???????

[neal1960]

How about a 20% tax on movies they want to send over the border?

[Mr.Unique]

I'll check the legality on this before pressing...

If I get asked to sign, I'm going to have the names and addresses of known illegal aliens to use.

</kidding>

...kinda...

[TwelveOfTwenty]

If California did vote for secession, it would come from a few big cities. Once it happened, the red areas would secede from the new nation and come back to Uncle Same. That would leave those cities isolated, and without Fed dollars to pay for their freebies.

Other than that, it may work.

[catnipman]

I’m totally against Calexit - the cost to extend The Wall would be exorbitant, this is, unless we can make California pay for it.