Posted on 01/26/2017 12:47:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Edited on 01/30/2017 7:57:50 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
>>You can’t have it both ways. Sounds like a plan to me.
1. Begin construction of the wall using the Federal Reserve Credit Card. It still works.
2. Prosecute the Kleptocrats who’ve been hiring illegal aliens.
3. Deport their illegal labor force.
4. Facilitate American Citizens filling those vacancies.
5. Pay as much Wall debt off as possible by taxing the hell of bit$ flowing South to Mexico.
6. THEN after the American people are recovering from the present debilitating cluster frack - add Tariffs where necessary.
That’s a plan.
No, Doc, the shock treatments haven’t worked. Schedule this guy for a lobotomy.
Congress has already said they will give Trump $10 billion for the wall. He can get started and decide how best to reimburse us via Mexico. One way or the other Trump will get the money from them.
>>One way or the other Trump will get the money from them.
Great. In the mean time the parts me and my veteran neighbors need to maintain the vehicles we depend on are pretty much all labeled “Hecho’d En Mehico” at the Bigly Auto Parts store.
And we don’t need another 20% piled onto our backs.
PayPal does not require linkage, that is for becoming verified. They mail checks to those that do not opt to link.
Bitcoin and other online wallet schemes would be a big problem. So would prepaid credit cards or mailing cash.
Bottom line with this is which method can be implemented with the least amount of congressional or bureaucratic meddling. Seems like a temp 20% border tax would be easier. Stossel said on FBN Kennedy that Trump can sign a simple EO to implement that. I do not know.
——It’d be dependent upon whatever the ability to identify and tax the “property” is:——
That is not a problem. The international surveillance agencies SGS, Bureau Veritas, Cotecna, and other minors all maintain extremely detailed data bases of goods and prices that are very accurate. They are in the business to detect fraud and know all the tricks of buyers trying to evade duties.
Further, We have a vast data based on Harmonized Tariff codes.
It is not necessary to pay by Paypal or through a letter of credit or such. We have US customs and every truck or container exiting Mexico will stop by the friendly US customs station and pay what ever is required or produce evidence of payment.
>>they mail checks
And those checks are processed how?
>>Bitcoin and other online wallet schemes would be a big problem.
As previously note, the challenge would have to be addressed by whatever mechanism the IRS presently uses to track and tax that property.
>>So would prepaid credit cards
Redeemed, how?
Well I wouldn’t worry too much as Trump’s threat of a 20% tarrif is likely just a chess move to gain leverage in renegotiating NAFTA.
Taxing the remittances going back to Mexico will probably work the best.
>>Seems like a temp 20% border tax would be easier.
Uhuh. Except that’ll be added onto the backs of whoever is dependent on those products - ie: Americans.
Which is not “MEXICO will pay for the wall”.
>>Well I wouldn’t worry too much
You laid in the snow installing any Hecho’d En Mexico starters lately?
Of course any instrument issued by a bank could be taxed on redemption.
Pre paid cards are by definition prepaid. So Jose buys some at walmart and mails them to Momma. How would an additional fee be assessed ?
On-line wallets would be highly problematic. There’s games, communitities, gambling etc. All with a wallet that can be loaded and unloaded. Servers off shore, funds withdrawn in a foreign country. Good luck with that. Now I don’t know how motivated the garden variety Illegal would be to trust such a scheme but it’s there.
They already mail money orders by the thousands which can be just as problematic as mailing cash so I’d expect plenty to opt for using Fed Ex to send cash.
And you can bet the farm La Raza will partner up with all sorts of immigrants rights outfits to set up other processes.
Keep in mind, if we see the kind of attrition we’d expect to see, similar to SP1070’s mass exodus, by the time Bank Regulators get their policy’s together, remittances may be not all that an attractive source.
Not true.
“Americans” that chose to purchase those products will contribute, but so will the Mexican producers who will be forced to offset the tax by reducing cost.
In the end American’s will vote with their wallets. We will buy American while the left and the indifferent will support Illegals by buying Mexican.
in conversation with some Libs recently some suggested that the 20% tax Trump talked about would be paid by our consumers not mexico... this shut me up because in the past, raising taxes was always a thorn in my side because we do end up paying for it... someone explain to this dummy how Mexico would pay with a 20% tax trump is suggesting...?? please...
>>“Americans” that chose[sic] to purchase those products will contribute
You laid in the snow installing a starter labeled “Hecho’d en Mexhico” lately?
It’s not a choice - it’s what’s in stock and available here in reality land.
>>Pre paid cards are by definition prepaid....How would an additional fee be assessed ?
When Moma redeems it.
The 1s and 0s are all processed ELECTRONICALLY.
If the transaction takes place in Mexico - it gets a Wall fee.
>>“Americans”
You mean like the kid who lives across the street who’s trying to put his world back together after multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan - and doesn’t need your condescending bullshyte when he needs his car fixed?
That kind of “American”?
Free trade does not exist on an international basis and it most likely never will. You don't need thousands pages called NAFTA and TPP and the others to describe a free trade agreement. Nations protect all sorts of industries and interests and they have a right to do that and they always will. - People like you who pretend that we have free trade have cost this nation a few trillion by supporting one-sided trade deals over the past thirty or more years.
And the number one reason factories and jobs leave the US is cheap labor, not all those secondary reasons you and others love to list. Why did thousands of factories moved to Mexico and not Canada as a result of NAFTA?
You're obsessing about government while refusing to see that all these so-called free trade agreements have done more to weaken the US economically than any other factors. And those agreements were brought about by government to serve particular interests of globalists and transnational corporations, and some agricultural interests.
Free trade with nations of comparable living standards and tariffed trade with Third World nations is the only rational policy.
As far as the REAL reasons for businesses fleeing our shores, you do not understand the voluntary cooperation and open competition of the free market economy which, without government interference, would allow U.S. companies to be competitive in costs & prices which is what this whole thing is all about. Among other idiotic federal policies, unconstitutional forced federal minimum wage is a DIRECT cause of “cheap labor” being an issue.
As far as your tariffs go, it is rational policy to shoot yourself in the foot because someone else shoots themselves in the foot, so everyone is “equal’?
Tariffs always penalize the consumers of the country imposing the tariffs because tariffs force higher prices on the goods entering the country. So here, American consumers will be paying for Trump’s tariffs.
>Nope. Because it would be Americans paying for the wall.
Call it a wash; less illegals in country = +security\+wages\-welfare\+workers = more $\taxes = ....
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