Posted on 01/15/2017 8:44:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
HELLO!!! We Have A BINGO !
i realize that the President is canting his political rhetoric for survival on the enemy’s battleground, and that may be completely necessary to get obamacare repealed, but let’s be crystal clear for our part as speakers of truth to power.
whatever he’s calling “insurance,” for whomever he’s giving “insurance” to, isn’t really insurance unless the insured is paying an honest price for the risk his particular pool bears. and that price is never zero.
and if his trumpcare proposal turns out to be a dog, and it will be called trumpcare by the enemy, i’ll be the first one to call him out on it. you’d better be right on this one Mr. President.
“... The GOP was in charge once ...”
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How do you define “in charge”, and when the GOP was “in charge”?
No. Everyone needs a job and the opportunity to obtain insurance in a free market. I'm sick of having to pay for everything that everyone needs. Do you think I go to work because I enjoy going to work? Hell no.
What is this "previous law" you speak of ?
Unless this law gets the federal government out of health care regulation and monitoring it’s a nonstarter.
The problem with Obamacare was that it put the government in total control of what policies could be written by insurance companies, setup a massive bureaucracy to track the healthcare you received and then demanded the public buy those polices or face criminal penalties.
It’s unconstitutional and needs to be destroyed.
If the new law does nothing more then remove the mandate but still puts government in control of policies and price controls it’s STILL Obamacare and it’s a death knell to and and all liberties in this country!
If they allow insurance policies across state lines and some sort of government pool then that’s ok in my book.
Since you either cannot or will not answer, I will answer for you.
The last time “the GOP was in charge” was under George W. Bush,
when the 108th Congress in 2003–2005 had 51 Republicans in the senate;
and when the 109th Congress in 2005–2007 had 55 Republicans in the Senate.
This is prior to Harry Reid evoking the “nuclear option”;
and 60 votes were required to get legislation passed in the senate.
If you want to go back to 1929 and Herbert Hoover...then you might have a point...
Gotta give Donald credit for trying to square the circle.
I just want to see what he means here. It might be a leaner, cleaner Obamacare but would still be an Obamacare. To really do the issue justice would require treating charity squarely as charity.
To allow is a lot different than to require.
Requiring is a door to all manner of abuse.
Maybe we do need a better vision of ourselves than as wage slaves.
Single payer. That’s what you seem to be advocating. Socialized medicine. Nice.
A single "insurance" agency run by central-planning masterminds. What could possibly go wrong?
The last thing we need to be doing is spending more government funding on health insurance.
Agreed. We have been distorting the market through government intervention in crazy ways, then somehow we fall for the argument insurance is a fundamental need and so of course has to be provided by the government.
Yet, we know that more fundamental needs, such as food and shelter, are better provided by the free market than through the government.
Don’t waste your breath or words on Nancy Pelosi She pops in from time to time.
“Let’s see what he means before we throw up our hands.”
I agree.
This is a complicated logistical and political problem, and must be deftly handled. Put it this way - if the Trump people can’t/won’t come to a satisfactory solution, nobody else would have either.
On top of that Trump has half the country looking to discredit and destroy his every move.
But the way it worked left a lot of people unable to afford insurance. I cancelled mine in 2010 when it went from $4k/yr to $9K/yr over the course of just 2 years. I have been uninsured ever since. In a country with a median income of $40K, you cannot have health insurance cost $10K for an individual.
Health insurance companies are supposedly just passing along the costs of paying for actual healthcare. If true, then we really need to find cheaper ways to provide healthcare so the insurance is affordable. $10K for an hour in an MRI machine is bizarre, as is $70K/mo for a nursing home, as is $1500 for a fifteen minute ambulance ride and $8K to be monitored for a few hours in an ER. My mother spent the last two weeks of her life in a hospital where they could do nothing for her lung cancer but feed her morphine and charged Medicare $243K.
There is something seriously wrong with the industry. It seems to run on the motto: “How much is your life worth ? Now hand it over whether we can help or not.”
Self respect doesn't seem to do it...
Because your auto insurance company went to the trouble of registering to do business in both Texas and Utah and had established a network of providers in both states. Your heath insurance company did not.
Congress needs to get out of the insurance business. It is not in the constitution, Congress critters are generally very stupid creatures, and they manage to screw up everything they touch. Simply allow insurance companies to compete inter-state like car insurance does.
Congress is out of the insurance business because the Constitution grants the states the power to regulate insurance companies and not the federal government. Insurance companies can compete in different states. All they need to do is meet the state's requirements and establish a network of providers.
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