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Transgender man sues Catholic hospital for canceling 'medically necessary' hysterectomy
rt ^ | January 7, 2017

Posted on 01/07/2017 3:19:52 PM PST by NYer

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To: miss marmelstein

Ike confused woman, Jionni Conforti, ended up being surgically mutilated 3 months later, of course at a different hospital. She decided to sue the Catholic hospital for big bucks for the “humiliation” of being refused “transgender care”.

I think she knew perfectly well that it is forbidden by Catholic Health Ethics (and every “ETHICS” rooted in physical reality) to intentionally maim a patient. That means deliberately removing or impairing a limb, organ or system, destroying the normal function, if said organ is not diseased, cancerous or whatever.

Doesn’t matter if it’s a sex organ or an eye, leg, ear or any other organ. Doesn’t matter if its a male or a female. Doesn’t matter if they asked you to do it.

Catholic hospitals do not “maim on demand”.

A normal, observant Catholic would rather be fined or be imprisoned than to cooperate in any way with mutilating a mentally disturbed patient.

The patient intentionally targeted this particular hospital because she is severely anti-reality, severely anti-Catholic, severely greedy for big bucks, or all of the above.


21 posted on 01/07/2017 3:57:27 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (They said what's up is down, they said what isn't is, they put ideas in his head he thought were his)
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To: NonValueAdded

You read my mind.
How screwed up have we (they) become???


22 posted on 01/07/2017 4:01:04 PM PST by sasquatch
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To: NYer
First, the "head nurse" is not a hospital administrator or insurance company spokesman, so I highly doubt she was told this by any nurse. Unless she has something in writing or taped the conversation, she is lying.

Second, it is up to her insurance carrier to deem a procedure "medically necessary, " and I doubt her insurance company would cover this procedure (even with a doctor recommendation) because of only a "possible" link of cancer related issues. The whole story sounds suspicious and I am confident the hospital had every right to deny the surgery.

Finally, this hospital should seriously consider denying privileges to the doctor who agreed to do this procedure. I would bet he is money-hungry quack.

23 posted on 01/07/2017 4:04:45 PM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You beat me to it.

Let’s say I’m a surgeon (of any religion or no religion) and somebody suffering from the disorder known as ‘apotemnophilia’ (an overriding desire to amputate a specific limb which is fully-functional) demands that I carry out the procedure. Can this person sue me because I refuse to mutilate him, whatever his feelings may or may not be? Totally insane, and just another reason why ethical individuals will be steered away from serious careers.


24 posted on 01/07/2017 4:06:49 PM PST by Stosh
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To: NYer

Don’t go to Catholic hospitals for that kind of thing.


25 posted on 01/07/2017 4:09:08 PM PST by arthurus
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To: NYer

When we lose the sense of the normal then the abnormal will become normal. That is the goal here. These kind of people should not be encouraged. Hello NYer, I have finally left the looney state of NY for the bizarre state of Fla, at least my vote counted down here. There was no hope in NY. I was surprised to see that Fla has 20 electoral votes and NY has 18


26 posted on 01/07/2017 4:10:06 PM PST by RichardMoore (Without the protection of life all other right are void, dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: miss marmelstein

It’s a woman who things she can be a man. All she has to do is plug up one device and bolt on another and voila! she’s certifiable.


27 posted on 01/07/2017 4:10:43 PM PST by arthurus
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Somewhere, somewhen, this poor gal got a mentalectomy.


28 posted on 01/07/2017 4:15:00 PM PST by arthurus
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To: Mrs. Don-o
*I think she knew perfectly well that it is forbidden by Catholic Health Ethics (and every “ETHICS” rooted in physical reality) to intentionally maim a patient. That means deliberately removing or impairing a limb, organ or system, destroying the normal function, if said organ is not diseased, cancerous or whatever. Doesn’t matter if it’s a sex organ or an eye, leg, ear or any other organ. Doesn’t matter if its a male or a female. Doesn’t matter if they asked you to do it. Catholic hospitals do not “maim on demand”.* Great post. You mentioned "I think she knew perfectly well that it is forbidden by Catholic Health Ethics (and every “ETHICS” rooted in physical reality) to intentionally maim a patient. Doesn't the Hippocratic oath concur with Catholic Health Ethics? Primum non nocere
29 posted on 01/07/2017 4:27:18 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Stosh

The trend in lawsuits is to demand that a doctor or hospital do whatever a patient (or legal representative) asks, regardless of the their medical judgment or moral concerns. The sex end is one line of attack, including “trans” surgeries, abortion, and artificial reproduction. The other line is killing, with the claim being made that doctors should be required to kill any patient who requests it, irrespective of other factors.

On both fronts, statute law and court decisions are in a state of flux, with new laws being made and conflicting litigation outcomes. “Stay tuned,” as the saying went.


30 posted on 01/07/2017 4:29:37 PM PST by Tax-chick ("He who is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his deed." Pv. 19:17)
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To: Gay State Conservative; NYer
The procedure was deemed “medically necessary” to treat Conforti, who was diagnosed with gender dysphoria in 2014,

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and is therefore not treatable with surgery.

Medical science not that long ago was aware of this.

But the AMA became an arm of the Communist Party and scientific rigor became a thing of the past in favor of political exigence.

31 posted on 01/07/2017 4:30:07 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: NYer
A transgender man mentally deranged woman is suing a Catholic hospital in New Jersey

... When the article begins with a lie, it's hard to know whether I should read any further.

32 posted on 01/07/2017 4:31:52 PM PST by NorthMountain (Northmountain)
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To: arthurus

Yep. Cork and an organic dildo.


33 posted on 01/07/2017 4:37:44 PM PST by mumblypeg (Chicago called. They want their village idiot back.)
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To: NYer

“Medically necessary” because obviously some dastard stuffed those unwanted parts into her body and they are focusing her mental problems.


34 posted on 01/07/2017 4:41:59 PM PST by arthurus
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To: NYer

these are bonafide mentally sick people that society needs to discourage not encourage.


35 posted on 01/07/2017 4:42:14 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: NYer

How our language is being deliberately screwed, ‘transgendered man’ is obviously not equal to ‘transgendered woman’ until the antecedents and precedents are exposed and settled. This tends to unsettle my last meal as my mind wants to shut-down.

My desire is for this to be done in private and not require me to pay attention or money to perpetuate this operation. I am sufficiently a libertarian that I do not care what one does behind closed doors, but when you require me to have my face rubbed in it, I STRONGLY OBJECT!


36 posted on 01/07/2017 4:42:44 PM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: arthurus

According to the article, the rationale was that the hormones administered to make the lady feel and look more manly could be carcinogenic for her natural female anatomy. Therefore, it was “medically necessary” that the natural female anatomy be removed.

I’m just translating it, not saying I agree.


37 posted on 01/07/2017 4:54:54 PM PST by Tax-chick ("He who is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his deed." Pv. 19:17)
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To: miss marmelstein

“”How does a man who thinks he’s a woman””

I’m confused - I read it as a woman with all the female plumbing who thinks she’s a man..and needs/wants to have the female parts removed. Right or wrong?

I’m too old to “get with” any of this nonsense.


38 posted on 01/07/2017 5:01:46 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: NYer
The procedure was deemed “medically necessary” to treat Conforti, who was diagnosed with gender dysphoria in 2014, court documents said. He had “long struggled with depression and anxiety rooted in the need to align himself with his true sex.”

I'm pretty sure that if a uterus is present, the chromosomes are "XX"--female. Or, I will put it this way: I am aware of conditions in which a person with XY chromosomes can physically resemble a female and truly thinks that he is female, since male organs did not develop. But I know of absolutely no condition in which someone who has XY chromosomes actually develops a uterus. Only true XX females do that.

Performing a hysterectomy on this woman without a valid medical reason is medical malpractice. And feeding her delusions by calling her "he" is unconscionable--it is abuse towards a mentally ill person.

39 posted on 01/07/2017 5:08:50 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Tax-chick

Thanks - I think the trend you describe is indicative of a deeper motivation that I imagine is suspected by most on this forum: what these people are looking for is not medical relief, but societal affirmation of the (supposed) normality of their disorders.

If you want somebody to whack your tallywhacker, and you’re willing to pay, you won’t have any trouble finding a professional willing to take your money. Ditto if you have a perfectly-functional right arm, but you feel like you want to go through life as an amputee. But deep-down inside (for some, right near the surface), lots of these folks know they’re messed up, and what they most desire is for society to affirm their fantasies.

And I’d still contend that something similar was the main driving force behind the travesty known as the same-sex “marriage” drive.


40 posted on 01/07/2017 5:13:10 PM PST by Stosh
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