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Milwaukee Police Chief Right: CCW Justifiable Shooting Increases Homicide Numbers
ammoland ^ | 30 December, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 01/05/2017 6:32:15 AM PST by marktwain

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Image from Fox6now.com 63rd and Euclid in Milwaukee

It was a dark and cold winter night on Tuesday, 27 December in Milwaukee, at 10 p.m. The sun had set more than three hours ago. There was no moon, but there was a cold breeze. The temperature held at 23 degrees. The blustery wind of the afternoon had dropped off. A 36-year-old Milwaukee resident was walking his dog in a secluded neighborhood. Street lights were far apart.Two teenage criminals were in a car, cruising for trouble. They found it. The armed teens attempted to rob the man. He had a concealed carry permit, a handgun, and fought back. One of the teens was killed, the other, seriously wounded, fled in the car back to the scene of a previous shooting. From Fox6now.com:

Police say their preliminary investigation reveals Thomas was attempting to commit a robbery at the time of the shooting and was shot by the 36-year-old Milwaukee man who was being robbed — who was out walking his dog on Tuesday night. That man is being questioned by investigators. He has not been arrested, and police say this case will be reviewed by the Milwaukee County District Attorney’s Office in the coming days.

The man has a concealed carry permit.

Officials also say Thomas’ co-actor, an 18-year-old Milwaukee man, was also shot during the altercation. He apparently went to the neighborhood near 24th and Ruby after the incident — and has since been taken into custody.

Police Chief Ed Flynn, a transplant from Massachusetts and New Jersey, says a big part of the Milwaukee homicide problem is concealed carry permits.   From the postcresent.com:

(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; homicides; wi; wisconsin
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Flynn is deliberately misleading here. In the comments at the article, Sheriff Clark of Milwaukee County takes him apart.
1 posted on 01/05/2017 6:32:15 AM PST by marktwain
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Flynn is a liberal butt kisser of do nothing but give me money Mayor Barrett.


2 posted on 01/05/2017 6:37:23 AM PST by ADSUM
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..a big part of the Milwaukee homicide problem is concealed carry permits.

A 'false cause' fallacy of the first order.

But given this fool's apparent disconnect from reality, chances are he's never perused a list of logical fallacies.

That, or there's a hidden agenda at play.

Or both.

3 posted on 01/05/2017 6:42:27 AM PST by tomkat
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Homicide isn’t necessarily murder. Flynn should speak to the murder rate, and not disparage successful self-defense.


4 posted on 01/05/2017 6:43:22 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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“Thomas was attempting to commit a robbery at the time of the shooting”

Death by misadventure. Not homicide.


5 posted on 01/05/2017 6:47:22 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE ("If guns cause crime, there must be something wrong with mine." -Ted Nugent)
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To: marktwain

Some people need killed.


6 posted on 01/05/2017 6:48:22 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

JUSTIFIABLE homicide is what they call it.


7 posted on 01/05/2017 6:50:37 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: marktwain

But now it’s the right people being shot.


8 posted on 01/05/2017 7:04:45 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: marktwain

It was a dark and stormy night. Suddenly a shot rang out!


9 posted on 01/05/2017 7:06:59 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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Two teenage criminals were in a car, cruising for trouble. They found it. The armed teens attempted to rob the man.

Two armed men vs one man. To me, that sounds like he could have reasonably been in fear for his life and/or grave injury. A prosecutor would have a long uphill battle convincing me this was not justified.

...in those neighborhoods, there’s easy access to firearms… and there are extraordinary rates of homicide.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner. It's called crime, violent crime. That is exactly why the rest of us non criminals need to be armed and prepared to defend ourselves.

10 posted on 01/05/2017 7:07:53 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: JimRed

A lot of good people won’t be victims in the future since that career criminal is dead.The cops should be happy since these thugs sound like the type that would kill an officer.


11 posted on 01/05/2017 7:10:25 AM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: School of Rational Thought

The stranger sank to the floor, saying “Jaaaaaaaaaa.”


12 posted on 01/05/2017 7:18:29 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: marktwain

Flynn uses the old “misdirection” technique.


13 posted on 01/05/2017 7:22:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: marktwain

Do you have a link? I have looked for these comments from Sheriff Clark and can’t find the site you are referring (Fox station and Ammoland)

Thank you very much, I love the Sherriff when he is on a roll!


14 posted on 01/05/2017 7:24:09 AM PST by submarinerswife (Allahu FUBAR.)
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To: tomkat

The vehicular homocide problem isn’t drunk drivers; it is drivers licenses


15 posted on 01/05/2017 7:26:20 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: marktwain

never, never go unarmed west of 45th St...


16 posted on 01/05/2017 7:30:58 AM PST by Thunder 6
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...in those neighborhoods, there’s easy access to firearms… and there are extraordinary rates of homicide.


Chief Flynn completely ignores the rest of Wisconsin, with *much* “easier access to firearms” and extraordinary low rates of homicide.

Remove the Milwaukee homicides, and Wisconsin has a lower homicide rate than Switzerland.

Chief Flynn has reduced the emphasis on detection, and reduced overtime for detectives, and the homicide clearance rate has gone from 93% in 2008 to 61% in 2015.

Funny how that works...


17 posted on 01/05/2017 7:40:52 AM PST by marktwain
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To: submarinerswife

Here is a link:

https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/articles/2016/12/7/sheriff-clarke-responds-to-blaming-concealed-carry-permit-holders-for-milwaukee-homicides/


18 posted on 01/05/2017 7:44:22 AM PST by marktwain
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We should be celebrating the numbers of scumbags taken out by CCW holders. I do!


19 posted on 01/05/2017 7:58:33 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Play stupid games-—win stupid prizes.

I lived in Milwaukee in he early 60’s. I won’t ever go back—not for any reason. It wasn’t safe then, and I worked 2 jobs. My Dad came to pick me up from my second job. Too dangerous to go out of the restaurant & go home after my shift.


20 posted on 01/05/2017 8:34:07 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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