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Finland launches a guaranteed basic income program for the unemployed
Hotair ^ | 01/03/2016 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 01/03/2017 1:56:38 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Ah, socialism. Is there ever a time you fail to amuse us?

In Finland we are seeing the launch of an idea which has been popular among liberals for quite some time but hasn’t really caught on anywhere. The government there has launched a pilot program where a select group of unemployed people will be given an assured basic income starting this month with no strings attached, no requirement to work (or do anything else for that matter) and no end to the program even if they go back to work. What could possibly go wrong? (Associated Press)

Finland has become the first country in Europe to pay its unemployed citizens a basic monthly income, amounting to 560 euros ($587), in a unique social experiment which is hoped to cut government red tape, reduce poverty and boost employment.

Olli Kangas from the Finnish government agency KELA, which is responsible for the country’s social benefits, said Monday that the two-year trial with the 2,000 randomly picked citizens who receive unemployment benefits kicked off Jan. 1.

Those chosen will receive 560 euros every month, with no reporting requirements on how they spend it. The amount will be deducted from any benefits they already receive.

A few things to note here include the fact that this is a very small pool of recipients (2,000 people) and there’s no indication as to how they were selected to participate. Also, the amount of “income” is pretty low. Less than 600 bucks a month in U.S. dollars isn’t exactly living high on the hog, but I suppose with their other, generous social welfare programs it might be enough to get by on, if not putting one in the lap of luxury. Also, they already have so many other goodies in the socialist basket that it might not have that large of an impact. The article goes on to note that the unemployed currently don’t even have to accept a job when one is offered if it’s for a lower rate of pay or is only short term and the refusal doesn’t affect their ability to collect benefits.

So will this work? You may recall that a similar measure was proposed in Switzerland last summer, but it was ultimately rejected by the voters. It seems that the laboratory test mouse for this case will be Finland, and it may wind up proving a useful social experiment for the rest of the world, including the United States, where some liberals have been pushing for a similar program.

The real question to be answered is the viability of the capitalist theory which states that you always need more people pulling the cart than riding in it. Will an assured income cause people to simply stop looking for work and live a modest life on the public dole or will some combination of desire for more wealth and a feeling of responsibility to the rest of society prompt them to earnestly seek out work? We’ve seen examples in the United States welfare system which would seem to indicate that at least some portion of the population will be willing to make do with less and avoid a nine to five job, perhaps indefinitely. That system only works as long as there are enough productive workers to keep funding the programs.

Personally, I’ve been waiting to see something like this tried so we can get some hard data, but I’m unsure if this is a good test case. Finland is such a small country and its people are already so steeped in a socialist mindset going back many generations that their results might differ from ours. Still, it’s worth keeping an eye on. Frankly, I think a plan like this would blow up almost immediately if you tried it in the United States, but if it remains limited in scope it might actually work for Finland.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: basicincome; delusionalsystem; finland; socialism; ubi; universalbasicincome
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To: SeekAndFind

“the two-year trial with the 2,000 randomly picked citizens who receive unemployment benefits kicked off Jan. 1. Those chosen will receive 560 euros every month, with no reporting requirements on how they spend it. The amount will be deducted from any benefits they already receive.”

Seems to me they are saying they are going to take money away from the recipient’s welfare gift and give it to them with another name attached to it, to spend any way they want whether it is good for them or not. How is that better or worse other than the government is allowing them a don’t ask don’t tell policy on where it is going?

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21 posted on 01/03/2017 3:45:18 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: SeekAndFind

Pilot program??? What a bunch of wimps. Do it! Just do it! For EVERYONE!


22 posted on 01/03/2017 4:58:09 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not sure that’s enough to have a cell phone, cable TV, eat at restaurants every night, have a nice flat in Helsinki and a hot babe for fun. They’ll probably have to double it for that very reason.


23 posted on 01/03/2017 5:09:47 PM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: marktwain

Free money per head ... teenagers would skip school, watch tv, bum in the guetto and have 10 children. 10 heads equal 10 times the wealth. It is exponential progression of wealth where nobody works.

You work. I eat.

And I have 20 children each making me free money.


24 posted on 01/03/2017 5:13:19 PM PST by TheNext (Hillary LOST the POPULAR VOTE by 7 mil.)
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To: ctdonath2

GBI = FAKE FANTASY

You missed the big problem. What is it? Come on now think critically.

Clever naming is fake. GBI, govt ‘guarentees’ nothing!

Quit falling for govt fake answers. Instead, anticipate the bad consequences and act accordingly. Such as, rent poor quality homes to GBI bums.


25 posted on 01/03/2017 5:21:13 PM PST by TheNext (Hillary LOST the POPULAR VOTE by 7 mil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thereby guaranteeing that they will remain unemployed.


26 posted on 01/03/2017 5:43:59 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: TheNext

Yes.

Little incentive to work.

Hunger is a powerful incentive.


27 posted on 01/04/2017 8:27:04 AM PST by marktwain
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll be the first to say “It’s not enough”.


28 posted on 01/04/2017 8:27:55 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: marktwain
Little incentive to work. Hunger is a powerful incentive.

Paul to the Christians at Thessalonica:

"In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers,
to keep away from every brother who is idle
and does not live according to the teaching you received from us.
For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example.
We were not idle when we were with you,
nor did we eat anyone's food without paying for it.
On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling
so that we would not be a burden to any of you.
We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help,
but in order to make ourselves a model for you to follow.
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule:
"If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
2 Thessalonians 3:6-10

29 posted on 01/04/2017 8:36:54 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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