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Democrats fret over identity politics in Trump era
MSN ^ | 12/30/2016

Posted on 12/31/2016 9:19:41 AM PST by Altura Ct.

Donald Trump’s White House victory, fueled in part by nativist rhetoric, has exposed schisms over race in the Democratic Party, as minority lawmakers worry the party will abandon its diverse constituency in the hunt to win back working-class whites.

Several members of the Congressional Black Caucus, the former head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, and activists who work with both groups cautioned in interviews against turning away from the coalition that helped President Obama win two terms.

“By focusing in on, primarily, the white middle and working class, and by taking for granted the black working class or the black underclass, the party will add an arm and lose a body,” said Representative Bobby Rush, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus from Chicago. “The black vote is the foundation of the Democratic Party and we won’t be taken for granted.”

The Democrats’ internal debate over identity politics, and how much to prioritize issues of race, has been fueled by some prominent congressional Democrats who called on the party to develop a retooled, economics-first message specifically targeting white working-class voters — the group some analysts deemed responsible for Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton.

“[Clinton] should have won this election by 10 percentage points,” Senator Bernie Sanders, the independent from Vermont who challenged Clinton in the Democratic primary, said after the general election. “The question is: Why is it that millions of white working-class people who voted for [President] Obama turned their backs on the Democratic Party?”

The data back up Sanders’ point. Compared to Obama in 2012, Clinton fared significantly worse among white voters in Pennsylvania, Iowa, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Michigan — and lost all four states. In the latter two states, Clinton received only 42 percent and 36 percent of the white vote, respectively...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: democrats; identitypolitics; pc
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To: Altura Ct.

Working class people create the lion’s share of the revenue that everyone depends on. They care more about the economy than some transgender’s hurt feelings because he can’t pee in the ladies’ room.


21 posted on 12/31/2016 9:40:42 AM PST by LydiaLong
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To: All
Hear the tale of Boobamba's woe-begotten presidency: a dangerously divided nation, trillions in debt, and busloads of parasitic freeloaders pouring into our country, sucking up our tax dollars, most of whom plan to kill us.

Michelle whines about being out of hope. Understand, conservatives......Obama, and that ilk.....seek the overthrow of the US govt. Their evil scheme entailed installing a govt of THEIR choosing....... what Michelle won't say is there's no hope b/c their overthrow scheme failed miserably.

These misguided revolutionaries are a very good example of the reasons that the founders sought to limit and check power. But of course, over the years, those protections have been whittled down by uber-liberals and progressives, loopholes big enough to drive army tanks through.

There's a list.....people who have aided and abetted the overthrow of the US govt: the Clintons, the Obamas, Podesta, Obama, Huma, Cheryl Mills, Holder, Lynch, Comey, Koskinen, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, both NY and Chicago mayors DeBlasio and Rahm Emanuel, the naysaying electors.....just to name the top end of the list.

==============================================

MUST DO---it is mandatory that we reconfigure the political language and archive the "code words" these evil people use to foment the overthrow.

Code words include..."Racism" "diversity" "Inequality," "zenophobic" "homophobic" "Islama-phobic" "globalism" "tolerance"......

The left's overthrow MO routinely dehumanizes those they disdain....as when Hillary called conservatives "deplorables."

All code for the lefties overthrow of the US govt----used incessantly to launch the overthrow.

22 posted on 12/31/2016 9:41:31 AM PST by Liz (W W W W W W w w w w w)
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To: Altura Ct.

” Donald Trump’s White House victory, fueled in part by nativist rhetoric”

Stopped right there...

Now defending your own home is being evil - a “nativist”.

The opposite of nativist must be an “open door-ist”, a chump.


23 posted on 12/31/2016 9:43:21 AM PST by aquila48
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To: GOPJ; Jane Long; DollyCali; MinuteGal; jsanders2001; V K Lee; HarleyLady27; stephenjohnbanker; ...

PING


24 posted on 12/31/2016 9:43:45 AM PST by Liz (W W W W W W w w w w w)
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To: COBOL2Java

I hear Liz Warren is available.


25 posted on 12/31/2016 9:44:05 AM PST by JusPasenThru (SJW is the weaponization of compassion.)
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To: Altura Ct.

As a black male, I ask this question to black people and have yet to get an honest answer:

Can anyone name one good thing Obama has done for black people?

Recently, I follow up with “...the fact that you can’t answer that question is just one of the reasons Hillary lost.”


26 posted on 12/31/2016 9:44:30 AM PST by jimjohn (This battle is over, but the war to rebuild the America has just begun.)
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To: Altura Ct.

The current Democrat party has a lot of potential fracture points. Blacks vs Hispanics vs gay’s vs white feminists. The task of the Right will be to find ways to hammer at the fracture lines.


27 posted on 12/31/2016 9:44:47 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Snickering Hound
Kid: "Look, I hacked your email."


28 posted on 12/31/2016 9:45:10 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Altura Ct.

If the Democrat Party rid themselves of people like Elisha Cummings and Maxine Waters, they might have a chance to get off the RAT PLANTATION, but as long as they have people like these two, they will be doomed...

It was THEIR party that started slavery, it was THEIR party that stated abortion, and it’s THEIR party that is the party of STUPID, and it’s THEIR party that is the party that is LOST for the next 30 years...count on it!!!


29 posted on 12/31/2016 9:47:58 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: Drew68

The black leaders would be willing to destroy the national viability of the Dem party, if that left them in total control of what remains.


30 posted on 12/31/2016 9:49:16 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Altura Ct.

So this article is all about how to craft lies that would fool people into voting for leftists.


31 posted on 12/31/2016 9:49:20 AM PST by aquila48
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Lurkinanloomin :" Can you imagine the outrage if there were a Congressional White Caucus?
These people are racists while screaming racist at everyone else"

That's quite true, although they would deny that as fact.
The DemoRAT philosophy is rooted in emotional , reactionary fear; for example, look critically at all their legislative proposals, It's all fear.
Without fear, there is no DemoRAT party.

32 posted on 12/31/2016 9:52:30 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Immigration is a priveledge ,.... not a right ! Tell that to O'Bungler and the U.N.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Where are they going to find a transgendered black indian disabled candidate in four years?

Gotcha covered.

33 posted on 12/31/2016 9:52:37 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: proust

But ‘Rats being ‘Rats, having been forced into a corner, they will simply gnaw through the walls forming the corner, and escape through the studding behind, to circle again around and stealthily attack all of whom they thought to be their “oppressors” (and you know who you are).

Stupid they may be, but always shrewd and crafty they are. (If Yoda did not say that, he should have.)


34 posted on 12/31/2016 9:55:07 AM PST by alloysteel (Happy New Year! 2017 is shaping up to be a VERY good year.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
Definitely.

And this, fueled in part by nativist rhetoric

Trump's win had nothing to do with "rhetoric." It had everything to do with America's decline for the past 28 years due to liberal politics in both parties.

Trump's victory was due to voters coming together in the realization that this country doesn't have much longer to exist.

35 posted on 12/31/2016 9:55:54 AM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: VermithraxPejorative

There is no place for white people in the rat party.


36 posted on 12/31/2016 9:59:46 AM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: Altura Ct.
Donald Trump’s White House victory, fueled in no part by nativist rhetoric
YOU ARE STILL CRYING WOLF (About Trump “Racism”)

By the way, a quarter of millennial black men voted for Mr. Trump.


37 posted on 12/31/2016 10:06:05 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which ‘liberalism’ coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Altura Ct.
Why does any Democrat message have to be targeted to white working class voters? It doesn't. They're blind.

President-elect Trump's message was targeted to working class voters, period. There was never any need to introduce race into the debate. The working class, the middle class— these groupings include the vast majority of all Americans.

The Democrat party is just flat-out stupid with its identity politics, and by the looks of things, they're going to remain that way for the foreseeable future.

Let them flounder. Meanwhile, the vast majority of the American citizenry, who are concerned with improving their opportunities and quality of life, will leave these divisive race-baiters in the dust.

American "progress" is about giving all citizens an opportunity to leave their children better off than their parents.

If the Democrat party wants to continue trying to create a divided, balkanized America, one that hates and punishes success, let them waste their time.

The vast majority of Americans are already living in a post-racial society, and, furthermore, are throwing off the yoke of the nanny state mentality.

Donald Trump is going to get the People behind him, to the eternal chagrin of the Left. Slowly but surely, their slanderous lies will be exposed as mere instruments of division, and their rhetoric will be increasingly rejected by a populace that simply wants to defend its borders, have decent jobs and opportunity to prosper, enjoy true Liberty, and "form a more perfect union" in general.

The Establishment and Media (but I repeat myself) can remain the petty dividers who so transparently epitomize the vehement hatred— hatred of which they so readily and falsely accuse decent everyday Americans.

These impotent fools had better join the Revolution or get out of the way, because their only other option is being run over...

38 posted on 12/31/2016 10:11:06 AM PST by sargon (The Revolution is ON! Support President-elect Trump!)
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To: Liz

They seem intent on desperate clinging to crazy old blacks and crazy old white women, along with the rag tag collection of deviants and stupids.

yeah, that’ll work. ;>)


39 posted on 12/31/2016 10:43:56 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Altura Ct.
I take heart in the fact that they don't appear even to be asking the right questions yet. They took an election thrashing and think it's because something's wrong with the voters. That is not the path to success.

For one thing, if "identity" politics were the key, how is it that a black candidate got more white votes than a white one did? And how is it that "a" woman wasn't propelled to office by an avalanche of women? The answer is that the premise behind identity politics turned out to be unsound. The other side to the question about women, for example, does not take into account that a female candidate named Sarah Palin was absolutely trashed by the same women who insist that identity is all important to them. It obviously is not.

This is actually class-based politics dressed up a little with new terminology, and it suffers from the weaknesses of internal suppositions.

First, it treats politics as a zero-sum game in a country that is characteristically oriented to progress for everybody because it has achieved that in the past. Listen to the furious denial of this obvious fact on the part of the Left - it's now foundational to them, and progress doesn't count unless it's distributed according to their multiple visions of the future. These inherently and fatally conflict. The way to get a bigger piece of the pie is to make the pie bigger, not put the government in charge of the cutting and fight about where the cutting goes.

Second, overlaying racial identity on a two-party system is going to have some problems in a multi-racial society. The approach the Left has taken of late is to attempt to group that society into white and non-white, oppressor vs victim, but that simply isn't and never has been how voting patterns break down. Attempting to model it as male and female, oppressor vs victim, proved disastrous. That isn't how Americans behave and it isn't how they vote. It's a failed, primitive, adolescent theoretical approach to society that has only a fatal simplicity to recommend itself to the politically naive. It's fine on campus, not so fine in the voting booth.

Third, identity politics has a dark side, and that dark side is hatred. Ostensibly intelligent people are actually mystified about the loss of white middle-class votes when substantial portions of their ideological advocates have declared them inherently racist, hateful, oppressors and thieves who must be taught a lesson and put into their place. That may be a lot of things but a way to build a coalition is is not. It is outrageously racist, which the Left has thought to address by refusing to recognize. Change the definition of the word and you can't be accused of it, insist the fascists of language. It doesn't work. It didn't work.

Lastly, the attempt to address the calculus of oppression by finding that mythical minority female disabled left-handed green-eyed midget candidate is not an act of inclusion but an act of absurd exclusion. Ordinary American citizens whose lives have priorities other than the encumbrances of high political and social theory simply don't think that way, and more to the point, don't vote that way. The tendency of social activists to treat them as lesser human beings because they are insufficiently politically obsessed is insulting, inaccurate, and inevitably fatal. Academia and the media are full of these creatures, to whom my advice is simply shut up and listen and learn first, propound later. Or not, and take the consequences.

40 posted on 12/31/2016 11:03:46 AM PST by Billthedrill
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