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Donald Trump Considers Moving VA Toward Privatization
http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-considering-moving-va-toward-privatization-1482974260 ^ | 28-Dec-16 | Ben Kesling

Posted on 12/29/2016 1:23:17 AM PST by ARGLOCKGUY

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To: redfreedom

;^)


81 posted on 12/29/2016 12:22:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Lumper20
Thanks for your input!

I have been hearing "bad" stuff about VAs, since the 1950s. Whilst some are good, many are HORRID and our vets deserve better; much better!

82 posted on 12/29/2016 12:25:05 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Hildy
I have heard horror stories about various VAs, since I was a kid and over all, things seem to have kept gotten worse and worse, since then, as an aggregate/normative total.

Of course nothing is 100%...hence the broad brush statement from me, which you upheld.

83 posted on 12/29/2016 12:29:16 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Mariner
No, I won't take it back and there's absolutely NO need for me to do so.

Did you read the article?

Did it say that individual vets were against what Trump has proposed? NO, IT DIDN'T!

Go read the full article and if you still don't understand why I wrote what I did, get someone to explain it to you.

84 posted on 12/29/2016 12:33:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Have you asked any individual vets?

And, you think the VSOs are misrepresenting their membership with an intent to harm them, or out of stupidity?

I read the full article.


85 posted on 12/29/2016 12:39:26 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: nopardons

Here’s your comment:

“Good and those who oppose this, are either nuts or making money off it; perhaps both.”

So, the vets and VSO’s have to be stupid and/or corrupt to be in opposition?


86 posted on 12/29/2016 12:44:46 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
Have YOU polled every single vet?

How about the family members of those vets who died due to lousy or no treatments?

So if one or more vet/s are against this, because they get good treatment, that makes them better than the ones who are for this? REALLY?

And yes, any organization can and does misrepresent their members; with vet ones NOT being exempt from that.

87 posted on 12/29/2016 12:50:50 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

But you made an accusation they were either corrupt or stupid.

Every time I go to the VA, the most common subject of discussion is “this is the best healthcare I have received in my life”.

And I’ve had that conversation with at least 100 vets.

How about you?


88 posted on 12/29/2016 12:56:57 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
Some are good; many stink on ice!

So you and those whom share your good facility are DOGS IN THE MANGER; you don't give a damn about those not fortunate enough to be able to use the facilities you do, but rather, have to wait days, weeks, or just die waiting, get lousy treatments, don't live near any facility.

Okay...pardon me...I left out one category, besides "nuts" and crooked, there's the SELFISH; of which you are one.

89 posted on 12/29/2016 1:05:10 PM PST by nopardons
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To: RFEngineer

I’m not saying free just pay the cost of my supplement to medicare. I will pay the cost of medicare and any deductibles. It is important that in any medical plan the patient must have some skin in the game, otherwise he abuses the system.


90 posted on 12/29/2016 1:05:18 PM PST by Rik0Shay
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To: nopardons

Selfish?

I advocate, and have for years, there’s an appropriate mix of VA and Private care that would most benefit the vets.

This is also the position of the VFW, American Legion and DAV.

By the way, most of the horror stories are from vets at Priority 5 or less. That’s the way the system is SUPPOSED to work. Folks at those levels are essentially “space available”. They have no service connected disability and are assumed to be responsible and have private insurance.

In all my years I have never heard a single Pri 1 or 2 complain about anything at the VA. Not even the food. And neither have the scores of vets I have talked to about it.

As an example, my father died of Pancreatic Cancer. Obviously not service connected. Because of his two Purple Hearts in Korea he was a Pri 2.

His doctor at the Seattle VA was the head surgeon at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Institute of the University of Washington. One of the top oncology surgeons and researchers in the world.

That condition could be treated under any private insurance plan and VA makes no difference. Though I doubt you’d get THAT volunteer doctor.

However, I have been to a VA sponsored and run group called “Seeking Safety” for PTSD and Substance abuse.
I met a kid back from Afghanistan and Iraq. His job was to cut the fingers off fallen enemy so they could be identified. In one day he collected 106.

How does he tell his story among a group of women in a private group that are there because their husband hit them? How does he take comfort that he is not alone?

Your ignorance has become derision and it’s pointed at disabled veterans.


91 posted on 12/29/2016 1:31:22 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
You're having the vapors and as I said...it's just ALL ABOUT YOU; just YOU.

Nice lies/propaganda, you're posting. Are you sure that you really belong on this site?

As I posted earlier, I have heard about really BAD treatments, FOR SERVICE RELATED problems, since the 1950s; from WW II vet and those from Korea!

But since I'm certain that you want the last words...have at it; just type away and everyone with eyes can easily see which one of us is the rational, unselfish one. ;^)

92 posted on 12/29/2016 1:37:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I’ve already received several private mails from other freepers saying you’re an idiot and I should just let it go.

So I’ll let it go. I’m sure folks can determine who’s rational without my help.


93 posted on 12/29/2016 1:45:28 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ScottinVA; trebb

As stated I’m stacking DOD retirement and a DOE/NNSA retirement. Took the dental and vision plan from DOE and turned down the DOE medical due free Tricare now.

I’m told at or after 65 I have to purchase medicare part B and go “tricare for life” .... is that something y’all may know more about ?

Grateful if ya have time.


94 posted on 12/29/2016 1:55:33 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: RFEngineer

Not costing me a cent shy of giving em 22 years of service. Co-Pay of course but no 1500$ a month sick or not fee.

Haven’t used it hardly at all ..... yet I’d honestly like to know if ya have time.


95 posted on 12/29/2016 1:59:40 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: DugwayDuke

Very grateful for the info. Can I use ya to bounce questions for me if I have more questions in the future ?


96 posted on 12/29/2016 2:03:42 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Squantos

Just shy of 20 grand a year, all in.

That’s not atypical I don’t expect.


97 posted on 12/29/2016 2:15:23 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: nopardons

The M’Boro TN VA caused an HIV outbreak plus more as they did not even wash the damn device they shove up your butt and colon for colonoscopies. Just lovely AFGE MD’s and nurses.


98 posted on 12/29/2016 2:49:15 PM PST by Lumper20 (Muslims, Latinos, Asians etc. Assimilate means learn English plus OUR WAYS!)
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To: Squantos

My wife is on the Medicare Part B TriCare for Life - it works great. I no longer pay her TriCare premium because it becomes an automatic supplement to Medicare. She still has all TriCare pharmacy benefits (have to make sure outside druggists know that it’s still TriCare because it will bollix things up if they try to bill Medicare) and even retained her on-base PCM. She can go to any doctor that takes Medicare and TriCare picks up what Medicare doesn’t pay. Once you get used to it, you’ll like it.


99 posted on 12/30/2016 2:53:32 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

Thank you very much for the information..... Merry New Year to you both.

Stay Safe !


100 posted on 12/30/2016 4:50:03 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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