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NY Times: Scrap the Electoral College because of slavery
American Thinker ^ | December 23, 2016 | J. Morsolo

Posted on 12/23/2016 4:38:48 AM PST by Kaslin

The New York Times endorsed the election of presidents by popular vote in the 50 states plus the District of Columbia. The Times resorts to playing the race card by arguing that the original reason for the Electoral College was to favor the Southern slave states:

The Electoral College, which is written into the Constitution, is more than just a vestige of the founding era; it is a living symbol of America's original sin. When slavery was the law of the land, a direct popular vote would have disadvantaged the Southern states, with their large disenfranchised populations. Counting those men and women as three-fifths of a white person, as the Constitution originally did gave the slave states more electoral votes.

This race argument is based on the essays by attorney Donald Applestein and Yale law professor, Aklhil Amar, who argue that counting each slave as three fifths of a person added to the population of the slave states, thereby giving the slave states more representatives in the House and therefore more electoral votes than it would have if slaves were not counted.

The Times is linking the argument for a popular vote election to labeling the Electoral College as a living symbol of slavery that must be abolished. We fought a civil war to end slavery, but the Times dredges up slavery as reason to endorse the popular vote.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; electoralcollege; hillaryrottenclinton; newyorkslimes; tds
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To: USCG SimTech

>>>Because of the electoral college CA and NY will not be the slave masters over the rest of the country<<<

Not even CA and New York, just Los Angeles County and NYC if you throw in Brooklyn and Queens.

That’s her entire lead right there.


81 posted on 12/23/2016 8:10:19 AM PST by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: Kaslin

Last time I’m going to tell these idiots: you don’t have enough states to ratify, nor will you ever...


82 posted on 12/23/2016 8:17:32 AM PST by Nabber
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To: Sooth2222
Except if you use the same lin logic about getting rid of the Electoral College...

Then the same logic applies to change in the Constitution

I.E You would change the Constitution by popular vote too and not by vote of the states

It's a slippery slope... because the vast majority of the physical country would be ruled by a few dictatorial Urban centers.... and you know that's exactly what the left wants

The rest of the country would rebel in short order into a civil war

Far better to let the few high population concentration Urban centers leave before we give them any power over the rest of the country

The irony is slavery argument really also applies to the urban centers

High concentrations of people in certain Urban areas that are nothing but vassals of a few Elites. because of the high population it gives them extra weight in ruling the country

83 posted on 12/23/2016 8:59:05 AM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: just me

No doubt.

It’s just nonsense. The Electoral College had nothing to do with slavery at all - yet they argue that it did simply because they don’t like the outcome of the election. The slavery issue had to do with how population was allocated which could affect the number of House members (and therefore Electors) a state had, but that was of course long, long gone by 2016 - makes absolutely no sense!


84 posted on 12/23/2016 9:33:45 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Kaslin

A obvious solution is to re-institute slavery and then we can keep the EC.


85 posted on 12/23/2016 9:40:31 AM PST by Leep (Stronger without her!)
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To: xkaydet65

Slavery! Slavery! Slavery! Evidently they can never forget it! No matter how much is done to heal this imperfect but God Blessed/Blessing Nation.


86 posted on 12/23/2016 10:00:12 AM PST by WNC mountainboy (Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.)
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To: WNC mountainboy

Slavery...it’s a good thing that the Republican Party came along to abolish it. Otherwise the Democrats would still have it in full operation - in fact, they continue to this day to re-impose it through taking blacks out of the workforce and putting them on welfare and public housing.


87 posted on 12/23/2016 10:02:27 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Eddie01

The current “Thing” will have blood on his hands, but wait he already does. January 20th brings in change we can feel safe in. Stupid asses that voted that “Thing” in twice should live in shame but they won’t because their minds are seared.


88 posted on 12/23/2016 10:05:25 AM PST by WNC mountainboy (Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.)
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To: mewzilla

Even within those states, there are large areas that oppose the big city elitist agenda. Combined, significantly more than half the counties in those states went for Trump.


89 posted on 12/23/2016 10:07:39 AM PST by SouthernerFromTheNorth
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To: xkaydet65

slaver was legal in NY till 1799, someone might want to pass that along to the Times, who apparently read different history books than I did....or didn’t read any at all.


90 posted on 12/23/2016 10:34:50 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: Kaslin

What the hell does the electoral college have to do with slavery?


91 posted on 12/23/2016 5:07:09 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (EEe)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

Absolutely nothing. The words Slave or Slavery is not even in the constitution.


92 posted on 12/23/2016 5:13:30 PM PST by Kaslin (Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: Kaslin
A poster on JackPineRadicals (a surprisingly good site despite their politics) had an excellent point to make regarding abolishing the electoral college:

Furthermore, a straight up national popular vote for president requires one more thing… national reciprocity of vote legitimacy. For State A to recognize the legitimacy of State B votes/voters, State A is going to want all of the voters from State B to be vetted/accredited/accounted for in a similar fashion as their own State A voters. Basically, any state that requires voter IDs if going to want every other state’s voters to be similarly qualified if all the votes get lumped together nationally. I believe a push for nationwide popular vote will see a big counter-demand for nationwide standardization of Voter ID Law.....I'm just saying that if you lump ALL people from all states together into one big pool of popular votes – certain states are going to DEMAND that if you individual votes to count equally across state lines, then the qualifications to across state lines should also be identical/equal. And frankly, it’s not an unreasonable request....Unfortunately, the only way to really do that is implementing some sort of ID law or something… and getting all sides to agree to some sort uniform voter registration/ID is going to be like herding cats. Realistically, I don’t see it happening.

93 posted on 12/23/2016 10:26:22 PM PST by Obsidian
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