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Judge: Mistakenly Sold Apollo 11 Moon Mission Bag Is Buyer's
ABC News ^ | Dec 14, 2016 | Roxana Hegeman

Posted on 12/18/2016 12:40:38 PM PST by nickcarraway

A bag used to collect lunar samples during the first manned mission to the moon legally belongs to an Illinois woman who bought it for $995 when it was mistakenly sold during a government auction, a judge ruled Wednesday.

Judge J. Thomas Marten, of the U.S. District Court in Wichita, said he doesn't have the authority to reverse the sale of the bag used during the Apollo 11 moon mission in July 1969, even though it shouldn't have gone up for auction.

The white bag, which has lunar material embedded in its fabric and which the government considers "a rare artifact, if not a national treasure," was mistakenly sold as part of a criminal case against Max Ary, the former director of the Kansas Cosmosphere and Space Center, a museum in Hutchinson. Ary was convicted in November 2005 of stealing and selling museum artifacts, including some that were on loan from NASA.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apollo11; auctions; governmentauctions; gsa; nasa; recyle; reuse
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1 posted on 12/18/2016 12:40:38 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Good. If I mistakenly sell something valuable for $0.50 at my yard sale, I don’t get to change my mind and get it back. Why should the government?


2 posted on 12/18/2016 12:46:56 PM PST by southern rock
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She should offer to sell it back...At whatever the going rate is for “national treasures.” I’m no expert but I’m thinking the number will be much higher than $995.


3 posted on 12/18/2016 12:47:39 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: nickcarraway

Judge bailed on ordering NASA to give the bag back.


4 posted on 12/18/2016 12:47:48 PM PST by stylin19a (Hey obamas to include mom in law - nah, nah, nah, nah - hey hey goodbye)
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To: southern rock
On the flipside, they owe the entity they did not return the property to a huge check for compensation for the loss of the item.
5 posted on 12/18/2016 12:49:09 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: nickcarraway
"a rare artifact, if not a national treasure,"

Then why didn't NASA donate it to Mecca as part of muzzie outreach?

6 posted on 12/18/2016 12:49:21 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: nickcarraway

so i ‘mistakenly’ sell something of yours, it’s too bad for you?


7 posted on 12/18/2016 12:50:07 PM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle
so i ‘mistakenly’ sell something of yours, it’s too bad for you?

Depends on how you came into possession of it.

8 posted on 12/18/2016 12:57:36 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: southern rock

“Why should the government?”

The French have an art law that says, in effect, if somebody sold something that is French art we can take it back without paying for it. Several classic cars were legitimately sold over the years and the US government has forced the owners to return them. The owners weren’t even compensated for restoring them. I understand this has happened with paintings and statues, etc.


9 posted on 12/18/2016 1:00:30 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: southern rock

Damn right.


10 posted on 12/18/2016 1:02:43 PM PST by conservative98
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
From the article,

"It is unclear how much the Apollo 11 bag might fetch if auctioned off again and with the full knowledge of its significance."

Safe to say it would be worth a pant load. If sold in Boston, a "wicked pant load."

11 posted on 12/18/2016 1:15:29 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: stylin19a

No bail for Judges...


12 posted on 12/18/2016 1:16:13 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Gen.Blather

“Several classic cars were legitimately sold over the years and the US government has forced the owners to return them.”

Were they classic French cars? How did the US government get involved? I imagine General de Gaulle’s limousine for example would be considered a national treasure! :)


13 posted on 12/18/2016 1:20:50 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: nickcarraway

I know a lot of aviators and fly myself. It’s just a white bag!


14 posted on 12/18/2016 1:21:53 PM PST by Ace's Dad ("America is Great because America is Good " Alexis de Tocqueville)
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To: Frank_2001

These were French cars. They went through the State department using international agreements. I don’t know what criteria they used to decide what to go after. One they saw when the buyer paid a record price for it. He was out car and money because the seller was the legitimate owner.


15 posted on 12/18/2016 1:26:23 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: nickcarraway

Sell it back for $995,000 plus $29,995 for shipping.


16 posted on 12/18/2016 1:37:37 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Steely Tom
Depends on how you came into possession of it.)

It was found before it was lost.

17 posted on 12/18/2016 1:47:44 PM PST by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth.)
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To: nickcarraway
The government obtained title to the bag and sold it to a good faith purchaser in a sale according to law, he noted.

The judge made the right call.

18 posted on 12/18/2016 2:28:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Congratulations, President Donald J. Trump! - Let's MAGA!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve got a bag NASA can have if they need one.


19 posted on 12/18/2016 2:37:04 PM PST by sphinx
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To: nickcarraway

Which genius,in what federal department is responsible for giving away our national treasures? They should be prosecuted.


20 posted on 12/18/2016 3:13:25 PM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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