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To: Grimmy

Your post is disgusting,and I suspect so are you.

It has been 30 years since I wore a badge with Indiana’s state seal but “shoot first,ask questions later “wasn’t the standard in my area. Other local officers talked a man armed with a rifle into surrendering when the apparently approved response now by some departments is shoot on sight any “civilian” with gun.And quite recently a local officer fired only ONCE to stop a knife-holding robber ,wounding the subject but not killing him in a panic-driven emptying of the pistol.

Some restraint and common sense is sorely needed. Every time any cop kills a citizen or pet unnecceessarily he or she gives the citizenry more VALID reason to fear and hate police. Just like every official who uses police or armed agents to enforce an ever more intrusive set of regukations and taxes give citizens cause to hate police and government.

I note a lot of these bad shoots are occuring in Democrat liberal ares;perhaps just another facet of the denial of personal responsibilty to use good judgment like the idiotic “no tolerance” policies .


51 posted on 12/15/2016 7:59:29 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

http://www.bakersfield.com/news/man-fatally-shot-by-police-monday-morning-was-unarmed-multiple/article_8c42d421-3500-52ad-b239-e94ca147a700.html

That’s the incident covered from a local reporter.

More info. Everyone who came in contact with that old guy that night was convinced he was armed. Old guy was being belligerent as well.

I may be disgusting but what I am not is an idiot that, while knowing that the media lies through its teeth on every issue at all times still insists that media which conforms to the destructionist narrative must, by default, be honest and true.

Of course it was just a “shoot first and ask questions later” because that’s what the media has been pumping out through its propaganda spigot for a year or more now. All must obey the media’s narrative. To contest the media’s narrative is to be evil and disgusting.

And you and those like you wonder how the left continues to win.


61 posted on 12/15/2016 9:47:31 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: hoosierham

“It has been 30 years since I wore a badge with Indiana’s state seal but “shoot first,ask questions later “wasn’t the standard in my area. Other local officers talked a man armed with a rifle into surrendering when the apparently approved response now by some departments is shoot on sight any “civilian” with gun.”

I live in a rural area of southwest New Mexico. The local deputy has many many square miles to patrol, much of which (until recently) has no radio or cell service. About a dozen years ago, some undesirables moved to the area and rented a mobile. They must have thought that since they were out in the middle of nowhere that they could do as they please and us dumb hicks would be too stupid to pay any mind to them.

Turns out they moved to the area to cook meth and burglarize residences. It didn’t take long for them to start making mistakes, gaining the attention of the local deputy. He made contact with them a few times, pulling them over for speeding, and going to their residence to ask questions about the recent robberies. While standing at their door talking with them, he noticed they had a lot of guns laying around the place.

Some time went by, and one of the undesirables decided that he had had enough, wanted to go straight, and was just going to leave the area. Evidently, the others thought the guy was going to rat them out, so they murdered him. Continuing in their stupidity, they thought it a good idea to drive the body across the AZ state line and dump it in the mountain forest there. Of course the body was found by a local right away, the AZ troopers contacted the deputy out here, being the nearest ‘town’, and a federal case quickly developed.

Turns out the DEA had been watching the group previously over near Phoenix. It didn’t take long to start gathering evidence in the case, but they didn’t have quite enough. So, local deputy pulls one of them over for barely speeding, and finds meth and weapons. A judge quickly signs a search warrant for the mobile home residence the remaining undesirables are holed up at.

A little after noon, FBI, DEA, NMSP, USFS, and local deputy all pull up near the mobile home, surrounding it at a distance of about 200 yards. Turns out the main undesirable is not in the mobile home, but is taking a walk down in the arroyo behind the residence. He has a rifle in his hands and his daughter on his shoulders. This changes any plans the Feds may have had about how to arrest these guys. Being the solid man he is, local rural deputy suggests that he just walks on down into the arroyo to make contact with the armed murderer and have a talk with him. Bad guy is carrying rifle with scope, deputy has his Kimber .45 on his hip. Deputy gets in shouting range of murderer and hails out to him. Conversation ensues, deputy explains to bad guy how he is surrounded, does he love his daughter, etc. Situation ends peacefully and the others remaining in the mobile home come out peacefully.

That sheriff’s deputy has the respect of this community, not just because of that one incident, most people don’t even know about it, but because he’s here for the community. He’s at the basketball games at the school, walks around during the county fair, he makes himself available at all the community events to hear what’s on people’s minds and their difficulties before they turn into trouble. And when situations do get really bad, like the one I just described, he doesn’t rush in with guns blazing. I have no idea what pool some cities hire their officers from, or what psychological profile they seek during the hiring process, and to be honest, it doesn’t really matter to me, but why communities elect and allow the sort of officers that shoot first and ask questions later baffles me. Perhaps it’s the higher percentage of libtards as population density increases. I am SO thankful I don’t have to live in those areas!


64 posted on 12/15/2016 10:39:51 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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