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To: MoochPooch

Star Wars was almost very political. Lucas tried hard when Phantom Menace came out. He went so far as to go master race too.

Examples of politics: all of the bad guys, the people fighting the Republic were business people. There was the main baddies (backed by the Sith) who were the Trade Federation. Their supporters included the Techno Union, The Trade Guilds etc. Get it? People who want to make money are bad.

Now look at the good guys; The Jedi - who are ‘selfless’ only do for others and have no possessions at all. (Communists working for the people

I know - I love Star Trek, Star Wars and anm a sci fi nut, but if you are you can see what was tried as well.

On master face BS - well up until Phantom Menace, the Force was more spiritual. Some were stronger in the force but in this movie we find that it is not based on training - it is based on the amount of midichlorians that you ahve in your cells. Hence - a Master race. The more you have ( like Anakin) the stronger you are in the force.


50 posted on 12/14/2016 5:05:50 AM PST by tony75034
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To: tony75034

Forget the Prequel Trilogy, he tried politics as far back as A New Hope back before it got that name when he wrote the movie to be, of all things, pro-Vietcong/anti-American involvement in the Vietnam War propaganda, with the Empire being America and the Rebels being the Vietcong (and the Ewoks being Vietcong in an even more explicit manner). Heck, Leia’s characterization in the final film was due to Lucas wanting to bring about solidarity to Second-Wave Feminism, and in fact, it was the byproduct of a prior attempt at making Luke into a girl (originally, Leia WAS closer to the classic Disney Princess model, spoiled sweet, even if she WAS ultimately meant to represent Vietcong from the start.).

Even though I know Bob Iger’s spewing bullcrap regarding his denials that it is not politics (and if he truly was going to claim it wasn’t politics, he should have fired Weitz and Witta when they made those tweets against Trump, you know, to at least keep up the illusion they are politically neutral. I know I would have fired them if I were in his position.), we shouldn’t be naïve as to think they started pushing politics with The Force Awakens, or even that Disney was the cause of it. Star Wars always pushed leftist politics in its films, even back in the Original Trilogy. The Original Trilogy was a bit more subtle about it.

That all being said, I’m still hesitant to see Rogue One, not until I’m absolutely sure that it’s not going to pull anything on me.


52 posted on 12/14/2016 6:31:59 AM PST by otness_e
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To: tony75034
To me, the ultimate foray into politics was in Episode 3, when Anakin said to Obi Wan "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy".

To me, this was a direct shot at Bush and "If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists", equating him with Darth Vader and the Dark Side.

56 posted on 12/14/2016 6:44:44 AM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: tony75034

” Some were stronger in the force but in this movie we find that it is not based on training”

Nonsense. It was always that way. Vader said the force was strong with Luke before he had received more than a spits worth of training.


65 posted on 12/14/2016 9:39:12 AM PST by TalonDJ
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