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To: MaxistheBest
It’s right in the article from your second link.

No it isn't.

You wrote "manufacturing in it’s pure sense is down!" and that's what I'm challenging you to prove. Where does the second article say this? It doesn't.

In fact it says the exact opposite...

Here's how these numbers work. We've factory production or manufacturing, they refer to the same thing. That's up here. Then we add in mining and utilities (so, oil and gas production and then the creation of energy from them) to give us industrial production. That's the one that's flat this past month as warm weather meant less energy used.

Utilities production slid 2.6 percent as warmer-than-normal temperatures reduced demand for heating. It had fallen 3.0 percent in September.

Which brings us to the larger picture. We're coming out of a very nasty indeed recession and manufacturing output swings down more in recession than the general economy. So, since 2008 factory production has fallen and then risen again. And just over these past couple of quarters it has just again reached an all time peak.

So... maybe I did take the time to read it.

81 posted on 12/07/2016 7:11:29 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

“Then we add in mining and utilities (so, oil and gas production and then the creation of energy from them)”

And do the numbers for manufacturing count the items that US corporations manufacture overseas?

Are we manufacturing more cars, trucks, backhoes, ships, etc,?

Do we manufacture our own busses or trains?

Are we producing more steel?


82 posted on 12/07/2016 7:17:27 PM PST by MaxistheBest (...)
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To: SeeSharp

7,231,000 Lost Jobs: Manufacturing Employment Down 37% From 1979 Peak .... May 12, 2015 | 1:23 PM EDT

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/7231000-lost-jobs-manufacturing-employment-down-37-1979-peak

Manufacturing...Durable goods

Wood products
Nonmetallic mineral products
Primary metals
Fabricated metal products
Machinery
Computer and electronic products
Computer and peripheral equipment
Communications equipment
Semiconductors and electronic components
Electronic instruments
Miscellaneous computer and electronic products
Electrical equipment and appliances
Transportation equipment(1)
Motor vehicles and parts(2)
Furniture and related products


85 posted on 12/07/2016 7:38:32 PM PST by MaxistheBest (...)
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