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To: Cboldt; All
Can someone explain this in lay terms, considering all of the rulings and actors that have been involved, creating just a bit of confusion to the casual visitor?


54 posted on 12/07/2016 4:49:42 PM PST by freepersup (A freeper behind every blade of grass.)
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To: freepersup

IS the recount stopping, or continuing... inquiring minds want to know?


58 posted on 12/07/2016 4:51:28 PM PST by freepersup (A freeper behind every blade of grass.)
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To: freepersup

Recount is stopped. Courts have no jurisdiction to override the legislature. The ruling basically states that there might be (are) problems in the vulnerability of the system, but the courts are not the place to change the law. If there was proof of irregularities, you might have a case but not to test the system.


63 posted on 12/07/2016 4:57:21 PM PST by sharkhawk (GO CUBS GO)
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To: freepersup
I'll try.

Stein asked for a recount she is not entitled to. The MI election board heard her case, and Trump's counter arguments, and split 2-2. So, the recount was ordered.

MI state law says that recounting starts two days later, because the loser (Trump in this case) has a right to appeal to a Mi court. Stein didn't like the delay, so she enlisted a federal judge to circumvent the delay.

The federal court not only circumvented the two day delay, it also ordered the recount to go on to completion, unless the federal court said otherwise.

At this point, the legal action goes on in two venues, federal and state. Trump's "no recount" case still pending in state court, and the federal judge's order to contravene the two day delay, as well as to recount until told otherwise, being appealed to the federal circuit court.

At almost the same time, the Mi state court said "no recount" and the federal appeals court said that contravention of the two day delay was in order, but if the state court said "no recount," the feds should butt out.

But that pesky federal order was still there, "keep recounting until I say stop." That's what the judge was hearing today. He fished for reasons to keep the recount alive in contravention of MI state law and MI court orders and the 6th Circuit saying the feds would butt out if the state said "no recount."

He decided his reputation was tarnished enough by a blistering dissent and the wrath of Michigan voters outside of his circle of friends, who are all partisan democrats.

66 posted on 12/07/2016 5:01:33 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: freepersup
I'll try.

Now I'll try to explain that excerpt of Judge Bonehead's most recent spew.

Stein's entire premise for recount was that the counting of votes or casting of votes or something MIGHT have been in error. But she couldn't point to any evidence of fraud or error, just speculative places where it could be introduced.

The judge says the integrity of vote counting is managed at other steps in the process, not by recounting. Courts have never ordered 100% recount to validate the integrity of the vote casting and counting processes.

IOW, the judge said Stein shot herself in the foot. He reason for recounting is a reason that no court has ever recognized.

75 posted on 12/07/2016 5:13:46 PM PST by Cboldt
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