Posted on 12/06/2016 5:39:20 AM PST by Mariner
As many as 3 million California residents are in the country illegally, which means the state has an extraordinary stake in President-elect Donald Trump’s declared intention to crack down on illegal immigration.
It also could be a test of how far California, or any state, can go in defying the federal government.
As the Legislature reconvened briefly Monday, its two top leaders, Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon and Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de León, and others pledged to implacably resist Trump – to “fight in the streets,” as Sen. Ricardo Lara, D-Los Angeles, put it during a heated debate.
“We must be defiant whenever justice, fairness and righteousness require,” Rendon said. “Californians do not need healing. We need to fight.”
There’s no doubt that California’s illegal immigrants are a net benefit, especially economically. They provide vital workers for difficult jobs that few of us would willingly do and they pay taxes to support services that in many cases they cannot access due to their status.
While California has taken many steps to quasi-legalize the undocumented and may do more, the rhetoric now coming out of the Capitol in effect denies their illegality and wrongly implies that they are victims of repression when the U.S. government enforces immigration laws.
Sovereign nations have an inherent right to control their borders. Therefore, it’s ultimately up to Congress and the president to make much-needed changes in those laws, not a state government whose overheated rhetoric makes probably meaningful reform less likely to occur by alienating residents of other states.
For all of the handwringing among Democrats, it should be noted that when they controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency and exercised that power on other issues, such as enacting Obamacare, they did nothing about immigration.
(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...
The article states it’s 3 million.
The editorial board force3d that statement into the opinion, otherwise they would not allow publication.
It doesn’t fit the rest of the opinion.
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Bingo. That makes perfect sense.
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My typo - I meant to type L.A. (Los Angeles)
“dirty whore”
`Parliament of Whores’ author PJ O’Rourke showed his a**/went over to the enemy this time around.
McConnell, Sasse, Collins, Ryan, Graham, Flake, all those birds—eyes on you turkeys ... get your a**es in line or change parties!
CA ALREADY sends more money to DC in taxes than benefits they receive. By about 30%.
It may be true. I have my doubts. On any statistical analysis such as this, you have to drill down to the assumptions in the analysis. It fits the liberal dogma, and seems designed to do so.
We have been deliberately lied to for generations, about a multitude of issues.
“Except maybe the part about doing some jobs others won’t willing do.”
That line has been used to freight in about 40 million illegals.
Biggest lie ever told and I'm sick of hearing it.
Juan & Maria sneak across the border, she is 9 months pregnant and goes to the nearest hospital for a free birthing experience that produces a child that will get public benefits for at least 18 years. Over the next few years, Maria has 3-4 more free birthing experiences. Juan works hard and earns enough to get a UEIC of about $8K. Then there's free schools. There is no end to the gov't freebies this family will get, yet they are touted as Net Producers.
Aka, “Hillary voters”!
It also could be a test of how far California, or any state, can go in defying the federal government.
As the Legislature reconvened briefly Monday, its two top leaders, Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon and Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de León, and others pledged to implacably resist Trump – to “fight in the streets,” as Sen. Ricardo Lara, D-Los Angeles, put it during a heated debate.
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Who cares “how far they are willing to go to resist Trump”?
All Trump needs to do is cut off the money and move on to the next thing while the fools in CA wail and gnash their teeth.
The New Jersey Generals, per Limbaugh.
Illegals primary benefit is to democrat politicians with their illegal votes.
That's no trivial statistic!
Moderate for a far left radical, but there is nothing moderate about the positions this idiot takes. He is sadly misinformed. Here are some of his stupid comments:
There’s no doubt that California’s illegal immigrants are a net benefit, especially economically.
No, stupid, they are a net drain on CA. They use welfare to a much greater degree than the native born. They take more in services than they pay in taxes, if they pay taxes. They are driving up healthcare, education, and incarceration costs.
They provide vital workers for difficult jobs that few of us would willingly do and they pay taxes to support services that in many cases they cannot access due to their status.
More BS. Doing jobs Americans won't do is nonsense. They are taking American jobs and depressing wages. In case this idiot hasn't heard, it is illegal for illegal aliens to work in this country and it is illegal for employers to hire them.
Sovereign nations have an inherent right to control their borders. Therefore, it’s ultimately up to Congress and the president to make much-needed changes in those laws,
How about enforcing the laws we have in place? Why do the laws need to be changed?
t’s also noteworthy that when the Obama administration was pursuing a very aggressive policy of identifying and deporting illegal immigrants
A big, heaping load of crap. Obama has deported less people than any administration in history. He has made it easier for illegals to come in here. Is it any wonder that the BP and ICE agent unions endorsed Trump, the first time they have ever endorsed anyone?
Finally, when adjacent Arizona was defying federal law and trying to impose stricter curbs on illegal immigration,?
No stupid. AZ was not defying federal law. They were trying to have it enforced. This idiot needs to read the SCOTUS decision on AZ SB 1070. Also, SCOTUS did uphold AZ's mandatory e-verify law in a separate decision.
My recommendation on what to do with California is fairly simple. Since the State encourages illegal aliens and flaunts US immigration policy......any official identification they issue should not be recognized under the federal real ID laws.
So a drivers license will not be recognized as federal ID. A “regular” birth certificate will not be recognized as federal ID. It will be very difficult for California “residents” to pass/fill-out federal I-9 forms, apply for Social Security cards, etc.
It is not hard to shove, a rouge states actions up its collective “@ss” to the point that its residents demand from their elected officials a different outcome.
Dude.
It’s the Bee. It’s about as far as they can go toward the reasonable.
Dude, I said that it is moderate only for a far, left radical. Overall, it is a crappy article that perpetuates all the liberal myths about illegal aliens and our immigration laws. I don’t consider that to be reasonable.
Actually we should not allow California to secede in the future. We should kick it out today.
“As many as 3 million California residents are in the country illegally”
I would say that there is a minimum of 3 million California residents that are in the country illegally. Probably closer to 10 million.
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