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Senate Dems, powerless to stop Trump nominees, regret 'nuclear option' power play (LOL!)
CNN Politics ^ | December 5, 2016 | Manu Raju & Ted Barrett

Posted on 12/06/2016 4:48:04 AM PST by broken_arrow1

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To: xzins
I think the 60 vote requirement in the Senate is an unconstitutional amendment anyway, so I’m glad to see it go.

Absolutely not. Read Article 1, Section 5. "Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings..."

41 posted on 12/06/2016 6:34:51 AM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: garyb

LOL, sure and that6 is why the have a huge majority in the House, Governorships and States Legislatures.

And where the hell did you ever get the idea Americans actually consider “balance” when they vote?


42 posted on 12/06/2016 6:47:30 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: Let_It_Be_So

I have always wondered why something hasn’t been found to drive Lindsay Graham from public office. His past remains undiscovered and unreported.


43 posted on 12/06/2016 6:53:44 AM PST by Truth29
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To: broken_arrow1
Sleeping on the job this morning!


44 posted on 12/06/2016 6:54:41 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: broken_arrow1

Or, as the noted American philosopher Frank Zappa once said,

Do you love it?
Do you hate it?
There it is
the way you made it.
wooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww!


45 posted on 12/06/2016 7:29:01 AM PST by Noumenon (Proud Irredeemable Deplorable, heavily armed Infidel. Islam delenda est.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Everybody keeps saying that the R’s will have 52 seats but isn’t the seat in LA expected to go R on December 10th?


46 posted on 12/06/2016 7:29:30 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: HarleyD

Yes, you have summarized the blatant MSM biases perfectly. Republicans are always expected to go along with Democrap plans to prove they are cooperative, while the Demagogues are always expected to obstruct (and defended when they do so).


47 posted on 12/06/2016 7:46:10 AM PST by Enchante (Hoping the Clintonistas are gone from our public life forever!!)
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To: billyboy15
1. I was only addressing the Senate.

2. The flip seems to happen when one party controls House, Senate, Presidency-— and not always.

3. The flip may well, and probably is not considered, I said it was a collective subconscious decision.

4. There are only 8 republican senators up for re-election in 2018, doesn't look very good for my prediction. Alas. We'll see in a couple of years.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Combined—Control_of_the_U.S._House_of_Representatives_-_Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.png

Anyway, we'll see in about 23 months if I am right or wrong.

48 posted on 12/06/2016 7:46:18 AM PST by garyb
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To: AustinBill

I disagree with that section applying to other already constitutionally spelled out methods for passing legislation.

For example, the constitution says the Senate counts the electoral votes for vice president and the candidate with a majority becomes the vice president. Imagine they apply their rules power to that and require no announcement of that winner until the Senate verifies it with a two thirds majority.

A majority vote for the passage of judges is the constitutional requirement. But that can’t move withouta 60% majority. I consider it a sleight-of-hand amending of the constitution.

The consequences are awful. Terrible decisions from former Congresses cannot be fixed with simple majorities


49 posted on 12/06/2016 8:05:23 AM PST by xzins
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To: broken_arrow1

Karma, how sweet it is :-) Such a shame the turtle is a diabetic.


50 posted on 12/06/2016 8:35:36 AM PST by V K Lee (DJ TRUMP=My Strongest Advocate MAGA; DJT=The Swamp Drainer)
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To: bantam
Not unless the Repubs hold them to a “TRUE FILLIBUSTER”

Democrats can't filibuster a nominee. But they can delay by requiring debate and introducing motions, and they can prevent a vote by placing a hold. That's different from a filibuster and would still require 60 votes for cloture.

51 posted on 12/06/2016 8:36:58 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: broken_arrow1

Payback is a bitch—and she has a long memory...

I don’t get ‘even’. I get ahead—no matter bow many years it takes.


52 posted on 12/06/2016 8:58:47 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ManHunter

IF Congress is foolish to RECESS this month—Obama can still put Garland into the USSC.


53 posted on 12/06/2016 9:00:13 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: broken_arrow1

Democrats never think twice about anything.


54 posted on 12/06/2016 9:01:28 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: broken_arrow1

What? It never occurred to them that the R’s might take control one day? Seriously? How STUPID are they?


55 posted on 12/06/2016 9:04:23 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: ManHunter

I quit reading the article after that line . But it is cnn .


56 posted on 12/06/2016 9:05:31 AM PST by katykelly
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To: xzins
The real issue with the filibuster is that under current rules adopted in the 1970s Senators can "filibuster" without actually having to stand and talk for hours on end, thus making it far easier to kill legislation or appointments passively. The Wikipedia Article on this topic makes for fascinating reading.
57 posted on 12/06/2016 9:17:14 AM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: EDINVA
"What? It never occurred to them that the R’s might take control one day? Seriously? How STUPID are they?"

Their "final solution" for Republican/conservative opposition was in full swing and but for Trump it would have been accomplished with this year's election.

The combination of nonexistent immigration controls and government abetted voter fraud was engineered to end all real political opposition and transform America into a socialist one-party state.

Through the political policies of open-borders, nonexistent interior enforcement, executive amnesties, etc., along side motor-voter, no voter ID, extended voting periods, opposition to culling the dead and felons from the rolls, etc., all opposition voters and politicians were to be overrun, overwhelmed and driven into political/elector gulag.

With the continuing demographic transformation of America neither immigration controls or honest elections could ever be restored and this Democrat strategy against conservative opposition would be a "final solution."

58 posted on 12/07/2016 4:49:50 AM PST by drpix
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