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Walter Scott Shooting: Prosecutors Confident of Slager Conviction on Retrial
NBC News ^ | 12/05/2016 | Ari Melber

Posted on 12/05/2016 9:44:58 PM PST by Trump20162020

Michael Slager, the officer who faced murder and manslaughter charges for shooting an unarmed black man in the back, will face a re-trial after the jury deadlocked over his case on Monday — and experts say there's still a strong case against him.

While eleven jurors backed convicting an officer for the shooting at one point, according to a note written by one of the jurors, a holdout juror said he felt he could not vote to convict the officer in "good conscience."

Prosecutors swiftly announced they would re-try the case, which is a legal option after any jury deadlocks.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: michaelslager; slager; walterscott
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To: Ray76

“Are you saying Slager had malice aforethought”

He had an opportunity to decide whether to shoot the guy or not.

He had an opportunity to preserve the crime scene.

He had an opportunity to truthfully report on what had happened.

He did not know he was being recorded.

At the very least he had considered before this event how a scene should be prepared and reported on if he decided to shoot someone where justification may not be clear.

That the dead guy was no angel is his defense.

The municipality paid a substantial settlement based on the available evidence.

Overall it’s not unreasonable to conclude he murdered the guy. There is no good way to present the video evidence that shows good solid policework. Therefore it would be more of a surprise to see him acquitted by a jury than it would be to see him convicted.


61 posted on 12/06/2016 4:36:22 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Dusty Road
That would be a fleeing felon in this case.

How did he know?

62 posted on 12/06/2016 5:09:36 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Dusty Road
That would be a fleeing felon shot in the back. Should have shot him in the face when he was fighting the officer.

Why not just shoot him at the traffic stop?

63 posted on 12/06/2016 5:10:28 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“How did he know?”

The moment he ran from the stop topped off with fighting the officer.

Let me reverse that question if you don’t mind, not directed at you but for a few others here.

How did the officer know the suspect was unarmed.?


64 posted on 12/06/2016 5:13:46 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Dusty Road
The moment he ran from the stop topped off with fighting the officer.

Judge, juror, and executioner huh?

How did the officer know the suspect was unarmed.?

So let me direct it back to you. If the presumption is that he is armed then why not shoot him at the traffic stop?

65 posted on 12/06/2016 5:16:00 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: raybbr

> Are you seriously defending a cop who shot an old black man in the back who was running from him? The cop couldn’t chase him and tackle him? Or, just follow him till the old guy ran out of gas?

He did chase and tackle him. Scott was 50, that makes him “an old guy”? Middle age


66 posted on 12/06/2016 5:18:13 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: from occupied ga

> Did you actually see the video - I did, and you’re FOS

Thanks for a reasoned comment.


67 posted on 12/06/2016 5:19:46 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Jack Hammer

Jeopardy does not attatch to a mistrial.


68 posted on 12/06/2016 5:22:54 AM PST by sport
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To: DoodleDawg

Run from a cop and then fight a cop puts you in the odds of getting shot category. Had he not run this would never have happen.

Don’t direct it back just answer the question. let me help! Nobody but the suspect knew he was unarmed, the officer had no way of knowing. What the officer did know at the time of the shooting was he had a combative possibly armed felon trying to flee.


69 posted on 12/06/2016 5:34:45 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Dusty Road
Run from a cop and then fight a cop puts you in the odds of getting shot category. Had he not run this would never have happen.

Had the cop not shot him in the back from a distance of 20 feet and greater none of this would have happened.

Don’t direct it back just answer the question. let me help! Nobody but the suspect knew he was unarmed, the officer had no way of knowing. What the officer did know at the time of the shooting was he had a combative possibly armed felon trying to flee.

But again, if fleeing from a police officer is grounds for him to shoot Walter Scott then why not just shoot him the moment he started running at the original stop? Since the cop had no idea if he was armed then either?

70 posted on 12/06/2016 5:41:34 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: raybbr
The cop couldn’t chase him and tackle him? Or, just follow him till the old guy ran out of gas?

Or simply pass on his name and address from the vehicle registration to his department. Then have somebody wait at his house till he shows up.

71 posted on 12/06/2016 5:45:49 AM PST by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: DoodleDawg

“But again, if fleeing from a police officer is grounds for him to shoot Walter Scott then why not just shoot him the moment he started running at the original stop? Since the cop had no idea if he was armed then either?”

At that point he wasn’t a threat but he did turn it into a felony. The fight with the officer upgraded it to a threat. But let me also add that the suspect escalated this from a simple stop to a chase and fight that ended in his death. The suspect was in control of this situation from the start. Suspect made at least two bad decisions resulting in his death. One dead dumbarse.


72 posted on 12/06/2016 5:55:10 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Ray76
He did chase and tackle him. Scott was 50, that makes him “an old guy”? Middle age

Well, it's okay then that he shot him. He's just middle age.

I don't recall in the video seeing the cop tackle him. I DID see a cop stop, take a measured aim and shoot a guy in the back.

No excuse for this. NONE.

73 posted on 12/06/2016 7:04:51 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Dusty Road
How did the officer know the suspect was unarmed.?

So, in your mind, any fleeing suspect can be shot because he might be armed?

Can a civilian do this?

Whatever happened to holding public officials to a higher standard? Or, is that only talk?

74 posted on 12/06/2016 7:08:05 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: raybbr

Him fighting the cop was a game changer.

How about people hold themselves to a higher standard, don’t do drugs, don’t run from cops, don’t fight with cops. The suspect ignored all these standards and got himself killed. Good riddance, one less dumbazz on the street.


75 posted on 12/06/2016 7:15:01 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Dusty Road
At that point he wasn’t a threat but he did turn it into a felony.

And where was the threat later? When Scott was 15 or 20 feet from the officer and running away?

Fleeing police may be a felony but it does not carry a death sentence. Neither does physically resisting a police officer. Deadly force should be a last resort and used only to prevent death or injury to the officer or people in the surrounding area. No rational person could believe that Scott met that criteria. The officer acted in a reckless and criminal manner by shooting Scott. He fully deserves to be prosecuted for it.

76 posted on 12/06/2016 8:46:58 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

He was stupid enough to get himself killed over a traffic violation. At the time of the shooting the officer didn’t know where the taser was or if the suspect had it. With a taser I can disable an officer and take his weapon away and even kill him with his own weapon. The suspect fully deserved to be shot, hell he was begging for by his own actions. Pizz on him.


77 posted on 12/06/2016 9:28:28 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: raybbr

Scott had cocaine in his system. Perhaps that gave him the extra boost he needed to fight with Slager on the ground and take his Taser away.


78 posted on 12/06/2016 9:33:40 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Dusty Road

At the time of the shooting the officer didn’t know where the taser was or if the suspect had it. With a taser I can disable an officer and take his weapon away and even kill him with his own weapon.

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Slager testified that he thought Scott still had the Taser as he was running away. Slager also knew he had no readily available backup. His department was understaffed by about 50% that day.


79 posted on 12/06/2016 9:37:42 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Dusty Road
He was stupid enough to get himself killed over a traffic violation. At the time of the shooting the officer didn’t know where the taser was or if the suspect had it. With a taser I can disable an officer and take his weapon away and even kill him with his own weapon. The suspect fully deserved to be shot, hell he was begging for by his own actions.

And the officer was reckless enough to shoot a fleeing, unarmed suspect. And he certainly knew where the Taser was when he walked back and moved it closer to the body so it's just as likely he was aware of where it was all along. There is nothing justifiable in this shooting and the officer in question has nobody but himself to blame for his predicament.

80 posted on 12/06/2016 9:43:24 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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