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Russian warplane crashes into Mediterranean Sea after Syria operation
Express ^ | 12/05/2016 | Alix Culbertson

Posted on 12/05/2016 3:37:31 AM PST by Freelance Warrior

The Su-33 aircraft skidded off the runway while landing on the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean, Russian news agencies reported on Monday citing a statement from the Russian defence ministry.

The pilot ejected from the plane and is safe, the defence ministry was quoted as saying.

A statement from the ministry, said: "While landing after completing a combat task in the Syrian sky, a Su-33 fighter jet skidded off the dock because the cable of the stopping device broke. "The pilot ejected and was immediately brought aboard the Admiral Kuznetsov heavy aircraft carrier by rescuers. "His life is not in danger. "The ship-based aviation continues its flights in accordance with its tasks."

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: kuznetsov; russia; su33
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To: elhombrelibre

On an individual basis, they are not all that good. In a large concentration they can be effective because their goal is to overpower, and they care not a whit about suffering casualties. They also have so pretty big, and some pretty good toys. So, they are to be taken seriously, but not to be particularly feared.


41 posted on 12/05/2016 6:40:48 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

“The Russian MoD as well as the Russian President’s spokesman have confirmed the loss and its circumstances.”

According to Jane’s the loss was two weeks ago. The article was on FR yesterday.


42 posted on 12/05/2016 6:42:26 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: ought-six

On an individual basis, they are not all that good. In a large concentration they can be effective because their goal is to overpower, and they care not a whit about suffering casualties. They also have some pretty big, and some pretty good toys. So, they are to be taken seriously, but not to be particularly feared.


43 posted on 12/05/2016 6:44:27 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Sacajaweau

What is the rate of acidents per trap on the Russian boat vs any US carrier?


44 posted on 12/05/2016 6:51:02 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Elections have consequences." Barack Obama)
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To: Freelance Warrior

The cost of the aircraft will come out of the pilot’s pay...

That’s why he captain goes down with the ship.


45 posted on 12/05/2016 6:56:10 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Freelance Warrior

“...because the cable of the stopping device broke”

Does that happen often?

Don’t US carriers have more than one cable...if one broke, would the hook just find the next one?


46 posted on 12/05/2016 7:00:35 AM PST by lacrew
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“The plane should have stayed on land”

And the carrier.


47 posted on 12/05/2016 7:01:20 AM PST by lacrew
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To: mad_as_he$$

I noticed the Ruskies said “His life is not in danger”.

That may be different than ‘ok’, in propaganda speak.


48 posted on 12/05/2016 7:03:37 AM PST by lacrew
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To: Gen.Blather

Jane must have reported the first loss, of a MiG-29. The recent one is of a Su-33. How many lost planes did they reported two weeks ago?


49 posted on 12/05/2016 7:03:59 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Gen.Blather

They’re two different events. Two planes have now gone down from the carrier.


50 posted on 12/05/2016 7:10:13 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

“How many lost planes did they reported two weeks ago?”

Total of two. Same types as listed here. I think we’re talking about the same crashes for the same reasons but the timing seems off. (Unless I just remember the article incorrectly.)


51 posted on 12/05/2016 7:10:43 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

Well, it’s, of course, probable.


52 posted on 12/05/2016 7:26:12 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Gen.Blather

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/second-russian-jet-crashes-in-failed-carrier-landing-near-syria/ar-AAl9Lqp?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout


53 posted on 12/05/2016 7:34:48 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

Russia trying to do in 20 years what it took the U.S. 110 years to accomplish. Good luck, knuckleheads.


54 posted on 12/05/2016 7:37:37 AM PST by pabianice (LINE)
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To: pabianice

Well, a Russian carrier is taking part in combat for the fist time in hisory.


55 posted on 12/05/2016 7:49:13 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Robe

I know nothing about arresting gear cable. But, common sense tells me there must be some shock absorbing feature built into the arresting gear that would allow for a few feet of restrained travel before halting the aircraft. Without such a feature, the aircraft could be torn apart, or the cable itself broken. If true, this would equate to poor design

I think it’s a toss up as to what happened, which could include faulty cable, mechanical malfunction, poor design, lack of maintenance to name a few.


56 posted on 12/05/2016 7:50:48 AM PST by redfreedom (The nation has been saved. Thank you Dear Lord. Long live President Trump!)
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57 posted on 12/05/2016 8:29:12 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: redfreedom

As an old Naval Aviator with over 3000 traps, I know a bit about the arresting gear.
Below decks there are two massive wheel like devices onto each is wound many feet of cable, they have hydraulic brakes . These cables are routed topsides through pulleys and fair leads and terminate at a quick release unions that the actual arresting cable is strung across the deck (Cross deck Pendants.
These are Pendants are made of 1 inch (25 mm), 1-1/4 (32 mm) inch or 1-3/8 inch (35mm) diameter wire rope. Each wire rope is made up of numerous strands twisted about an oiled hemp center core, which provides a “cushion” for each strand and also supplies cable lubrication.
When a landing aircraft engages a deck pendant, the force of the forward motion of the landing aircraft is transferred to a purchase cable which is routed via sheaves to the arresting engine, located in a machinery room below the flight deck .
As the deck pendant and the purchase cable are pulled out by the aircraft being arrested, the kinetic energy of the aircraft is transferred to mechanical energy of the cables, and the arresting engine transfers the mechanical energy of the cables to hydraulic energy. The arresting engine brings about a smooth, controlled stop of the landing aircraft.
Most failures are to the cross deck pendants which are designed to be replaced relatively quickly


58 posted on 12/05/2016 8:39:32 AM PST by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Robe

The designers of such a system must have been just brilliant.


59 posted on 12/05/2016 8:56:15 AM PST by redfreedom (The nation has been saved. Thank you Dear Lord. Long live President Trump!)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Yes, I’ve already seen this. The land-based squadrons perform far better, though.


60 posted on 12/05/2016 8:56:20 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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