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Oakland warehouse was a cluttered death trap filled with pianos, RVs but no fire sprinklers former r
Los Angeles Times ^ | December 3, 2016 | By Liam Dillon, Ben Poston, David Zahniser and Laura J. NelsonLiam Dillon, Ben Poston, & others

Posted on 12/04/2016 6:30:20 AM PST by libstripper

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Oakland warehouse was a cluttered ‘death trap’ filled with pianos, RVs, but no fire sprinklers, former residents say

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The Oakland warehouse where at least nine people were killed at a late-night concert was a deadly blaze waiting to happen.

People who previously lived there recalled a building that lacked fire sprinklers and had a staircase partly made of wooden pallets. Partygoers recalled a rabbit warren of rooms crammed with belongings — pianos, organs, antique furniture, doors and half-finished sculptures.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: corruption; fire; oakland; tragedy
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To: null and void

The Daily Mail was once only a UK paper. They now have two versions, UK & USA. The hired a large uS staff and opened their offices in NYC.


21 posted on 12/04/2016 7:38:45 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!!!)
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To: arl295
Take a close look at the right edge of this image:

Is that old electrical wiring?

22 posted on 12/04/2016 7:42:00 AM PST by justlurking (#TurnOffCNN)
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To: BunnySlippers

Ah. Still NYC is a full continent away and they have better coverage, by any measure, than the LA Times in the same state.


23 posted on 12/04/2016 7:42:23 AM PST by null and void ( If you defy federal law, we deny federal funds.)
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To: FreedomPoster
There is no one with any assets worth going after involved, is my take.

Apparently, there was an absentee landlord, an elderly Vietnamese man, whose daughter dropped by once a month to collect the rent. The residents were instructed to tell her that they only worked, not lived there.

Hope he's got a good lawyer.

24 posted on 12/04/2016 7:44:58 AM PST by Drew68
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To: arl295
looks like extension cords were used as electrical wiring as well

I read the extension cords were surreptitiously hooked up to an adjacent structure, stealing power.

25 posted on 12/04/2016 7:46:25 AM PST by Drew68
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To: libstripper

The owner of the building, tweeted yesterday that he was saddened about his loss of his stuff, not a single word about the 9+ people that died in his death trap of a building. People were outraged against him, even a “friend” that responded that he told him about his safety issues his building had for many months and he ignored him.

The owner is a whack job who was more concerned over his “art” then the safety and death of the people who were in his building. I don’t think the locals are to blame, the owner is to blame 100% for what happened. Local authorities can only do so much and is a process. He was served with violation notices, he just did nothing to correct the problems.


26 posted on 12/04/2016 7:46:35 AM PST by arl295
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To: bigtoona
In reality its just a bunch of hippy vagrants that need a place to squat for almost no money so they can smoke dope and create junk “art” out of twisted metal and garbage.

My guess is that many of the dead were 'off the grid' and will be impossible to identify.

27 posted on 12/04/2016 7:47:22 AM PST by jimbug
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To: justlurking

OMG! That looks like ancient cloth Romex. That stuff is so old the insulation crumbles off if you look at it.


28 posted on 12/04/2016 7:48:18 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: justlurking

I thought so myself, but it kind of looks like speaker/XLR wiring to me. Maybe they had a sound system in this place? I don’t know

If it is being used as electrical wiring, it doesn’t look like it would pass code.


29 posted on 12/04/2016 7:51:19 AM PST by arl295
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To: Drew68

The liberal way of wiring haha

Would not surprise me though


30 posted on 12/04/2016 7:52:28 AM PST by arl295
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To: libstripper

The images show the cluttered and disorganized mind of a left.


31 posted on 12/04/2016 7:52:30 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: arl295
The owner is a whack job who was more concerned over his “art” then the safety and death of the people who were in his building.

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Before he deletes it:


32 posted on 12/04/2016 7:55:45 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Jim Noble

This happened before midnight.


33 posted on 12/04/2016 8:01:45 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: FreedomPoster; arl295
OMG! That looks like ancient cloth Romex. That stuff is so old the insulation crumbles off if you look at it.

That's what I thought it was, too. Here's a close-up picture:


34 posted on 12/04/2016 8:04:51 AM PST by justlurking (#TurnOffCNN)
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To: libstripper

And now watch the cronies in government step in, go way overboard, and create a bunch of unintended consequences of their new rules for law-abiding businesses.


35 posted on 12/04/2016 8:08:05 AM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: libstripper
He [Isis spokesman] gave specifics on how to attack Westerners and them feel insecure; "Hunt them wherever they may be. Turn their worldly life into fear and fire. .. "

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/22/world/meast/isis-threatens-west/

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Excluding this fire perhaps..

Too many unusual fires. Too many unusual places.

This is such an easy way to strike fear into the hearts of Americans.

Fires cause massive death and destruction, easy to start, and the chance of being caught is small..

36 posted on 12/04/2016 8:13:24 AM PST by patriot08 (5th generation Texan-(girl type) Thrilled we won! Donald will give us our country back!)
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To: justlurking

Could be, you could never know in these old buildings

Would not surprise me if the place had Zinsco or Federal Pacific circuit breakers either, so a short or overload would have never tripped the breaker in the first place

Plus you can see extension cords hanging down for power, extension cords are big no no in commercial buildings like a warehouse and would get you flagged on inspection.


37 posted on 12/04/2016 8:19:33 AM PST by arl295
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To: NohSpinZone

They have to blame somebody right?

So they are going to blame innocent law abiding citizens for this

Sounds familiar right? Anytime a terrorist nut knifes somebody, the knee jerk liberal response is always “more gun control”....


38 posted on 12/04/2016 8:21:25 AM PST by arl295
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To: null and void

Better coverage than the San Francisco chronicle or Oakland Times, as well


39 posted on 12/04/2016 8:22:42 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: justlurking

Good catch!


40 posted on 12/04/2016 8:26:59 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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