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Sarah Palin calls Trump’s deal with Carrier ‘crony capitalism’
The Sacramento Bee ^ | December 2nd, 2016 | By Brian Murphy

Posted on 12/02/2016 7:22:39 PM PST by Mariner

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To: offduty
As mentioned above, I'm not privy to any details of the Carrier deal, and my comment was only intended to voice agreement with the philosophical point Sarah seemed to be making.

The YUGE caveat to that however is the Trump/Pence Factor which is, imho, already working its 'magic' (aka experience & integrity) in the background.

Thanks for your insight on this for those of us perhaps less conversant with the details.

I love Sarah - voted for her in '08 - but sometimes wonder if your assessment mightn't be a little closer to the mark than I'd care to admit.

181 posted on 12/03/2016 8:01:55 AM PST by tomkat (alt right)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I had a very high opinion of her because she fought corruption in AK and she had integrity. But over time she has been doing these reality shows and her family is a mess partly because of it. I think she has been making poor decisions lately, she has become irrelevant. At this point when she opens her mouth she only damages us.

Trump wants to kill PC and turn the country back on track with our traditions and rule of law. Nobody else would take us as far as he can take us, so we don’t need our own people trying to trip up this effort.


182 posted on 12/03/2016 8:04:37 AM PST by bigtoona (Make America Great Again! America First!)
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To: Mariner
May as well clear your mind of the old economics. It's laughable reading comments about crony capitalism. Give me a break. Trumpism is about America First for the American worker. He won on that slogan and not on the old Republican mantra of old economics and globalism. To think the State is not involved in business in this day and age is ludicrous and suited only for an academic discussion. TRUMPUS MAXIMUS AMERICANUS!
183 posted on 12/03/2016 8:10:23 AM PST by Lonely Are The Brave
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The proper role of government is to create an environment that promotes free and open competition for ALL businesses, not picking and choosing crony favorites.”

In a perfect world yes.
We aren’t there right now; saving jobs with the current tools available is a good thing.

Yes lets move the climate to where these incentives aren’t needed. And a very much related issue; states don’t wage economic warfare to steal businesses from each other.


184 posted on 12/03/2016 8:14:40 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: Lakeshark

They’ve (DimMedia) have been trying to do that for years. I pray that Americans have FINALLY woken up to the MSM’s evil tricks....and, that Trump will take his message directly to We the People...bypassing their sorry backsides, completely!


185 posted on 12/03/2016 8:30:03 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow!)
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To: bigtoona

Trump seems to me to be on a God-authored mission.

Although scarcely religious himself, it looks like God gave Trump a most audacious vision. And he sounds pompous to some people. But his vision makes far, far more sense than anything we’ve seen gain political feet for a long long time. In a way, he digs even deeper than Ronald Reagan did.

God never made Trump perfect on this earth, though if he has believed on Christ (which by now I believe has happened) he will be delivered perfect, along with the rest of the saints, to heaven’s shore in the end. But in the meantime, the imperfect but willing and inspired Trump looks like he is about to be the servant of a miracle.

And my foremost thought about that isn’t even political, but “Praise God.” Politics is only another vessel that can be filled with the grace of God, if the politicians are willing.


186 posted on 12/03/2016 9:20:11 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jane Long

Wow, the hate coming off here for Mrs. Palin makes me feel like I’m on some leftwing hate site. This came from the Sacramento bee for crying out loud. I’ll wait to see what she actually said.


187 posted on 12/03/2016 9:21:22 AM PST by alaskamomma
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To: alaskamomma

Well it turns out to be readable...

She is on the verge of concern trolling here, but I would expect this from a person who has not yet quite understood Trump’s vision. I think I can understand most, if not quite all, of Trump’s vision, but again it looks to me like a divine vision. Trump didn’t talk with Carrier with the intention of making it a crony capitalism special case. He talked with it in order to save its American status while setting up to implement more generic policies that will save the American status of a lot more companies in that position. They are like the Adam and Eve of national salvation, so to speak. What they individually underwent now makes them an example of the policy to come.


188 posted on 12/03/2016 9:27:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: alaskamomma; onyx; KC_Lion

I have no hate for Sarah. I’ve been, and continue to be, one of her biggest fans since day one.

Take your snarky comments, elsewhere, please. Thank you.


189 posted on 12/03/2016 9:34:53 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow!)
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To: Jane Long

I think we are witnessing a process of God refining America’s gold, as the patriotic song goes.

Being in an age like this is very heady.

The grace of God is driving my life in new directions, not all of which I am comfortable with. Risks are being incurred that I cannot see to the end of, and yet know that God has planned an excellent end for.

I am leaving many of my comfort zones in order to embrace the ultimate Comfort better. America is going to be leaving many of its comfort zones for the same reason. Conservatives can have their “safe spaces” too, even if not quite as explicit about it as the lefties get.

Hang onto your hats, tighten your spiritual seat belts, and follow what happens when Jesus says “hold My wine and watch this.”


190 posted on 12/03/2016 9:41:16 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: tomkat

I remember reading about the offer made by Indiana that Carrier rejected. They were hell-bent on leaving for Mexico and if I remember correctly from news reports, the new plant is almost finished.

After reading Palin’s full statement, I suppose I may have been a bit harsh in my assessment but I am concerned about her knack for injecting herself into matters when she has done little or nothing to change the status quo.

Just my thoughts, Is she still relevant?


191 posted on 12/03/2016 9:50:46 AM PST by offduty
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To: Mariner

The tax breaks were between Carrier and the state of India. I would be curious to see if Alaska ever gave tax breaks to individual companies when she was Governor. I`m not saying she did, but it would interesting to find out.


192 posted on 12/03/2016 10:32:16 AM PST by mbrfl
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To: Lakeshark
I read it again, I think you're getting the "scolding" more from the headline than what she said.

Lake, please allow me to make my own observations, and come to my own conclusions.

Here is where Sarah scolded Trump in her post:

"When government steps in arbitrarily with individual subsidies, favoring one business over others, it sets inconsistent, unfair, illogical precedent. Meanwhile, the invisible hand that best orchestrates a free people’s free enterprise system gets amputated. Then, special interests creep in and manipulate markets. Republicans oppose this, remember? Instead, we support competition on a level playing field, remember? Because we know special interest crony capitalism is one big fail.

Politicians picking and choosing recipients of corporate welfare is railed against by fiscal conservatives, for it’s a hallmark of corruption. And socialism. The Obama Administration dealt in it in spades. Recall Solyndra, Stimulus boondoggles, and all their other taxpayer-subsidized anchors on our economy. A $20 trillion debt-ridden country can’t afford this sinfully stupid practice, so vigilantly guard against its continuance, or we’re doomed.

Reaganites learned it is POLICY change that changes economic trajectory. Reagan’s successes were built on establishing a fiscal framework that invigorated our entire economy, revitalized growth and investment while decreasing spending, tax rates, over-reaching regulations, unemployment, and favoritism via individual subsidies. We need Reaganites in the new Administration.

However well meaning, burdensome federal government imposition is never the solution. Never. Not in our homes, not in our schools, not in churches, not in businesses.

Gotta’ have faith the Trump team knows all this."

I read that as a clear (though subtle) scolding of the fledgling Trump administration.

I'm not even saying that Sarah's wrong in her thinking. She isn't. I agree with her completely, that the playing field needs to be leveled for all, but it was a message best delivered personally - not over Facebook.

I know she didn't intend it, but she's created a public squabble over one of Trump's early achievements. It was really unnecessary, and only gave the enemy a cudgeal to beat Trump and us over the head with.

193 posted on 12/03/2016 10:49:33 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Jane Long
...the timing of Sarah’s article, is not the best. The time for armchair quarterbacking will come, later. We need all good hands on deck, now. Let the man get into the White House for a while, at least, before issuing public warnings or concerns.

Exactly my point. Sarah's analysis is spot on, but it comes off as a criticism, mostly because it was done publicly.

I'm pretty sure that Sarah was listening (as we all were) when Trump promised to lower the corporate tax, and renegotiate our terrible trade deals to make America the best place on earth to do business.

I'd expect her to have a bit of patience, and let the man get in office to achieve those structural reforms before criticizing him for doing what he can, from his current position of limited influence.

What he just did with Carrier was more of a morale booster than anything else. It wasn't a harbinger of how he intends to do things after January.

194 posted on 12/03/2016 11:01:35 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Jane Long; Lakeshark

Geez....I can’t believe I’m actually scolding Sarah.


195 posted on 12/03/2016 11:03:37 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier
I have no problem with you coming to your own conclusions, you should give me the same grace.

I disagree with your premise, that's all, and I agree with you that if she was going to do it, do it privately. Bad timing. Twas unnecessary to put it in the public view before talking with them.

It's amazing how fast the LSM suddenly thought Gov Sarah Palin was relevant...........

196 posted on 12/03/2016 11:05:08 AM PST by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Let's be his voice for the nation!)
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To: Windflier
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197 posted on 12/03/2016 11:27:20 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow!)
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To: Lakeshark

It’s amazing how fast the LSM suddenly thought Gov Sarah Palin was relevant...........


Buncha hippie-crits!!


198 posted on 12/03/2016 11:28:21 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow!)
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To: Lakeshark

“I have no problem with you coming to your own conclusions, you should give me the same grace.”

My apologies, if I erred by telling you what to think, but I’m pretty sure I didn’t.

I disagreed with your conclusion, is all.

All in all, our mutual thinking on this is almost parallel.


199 posted on 12/03/2016 11:55:34 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

200 posted on 12/03/2016 11:59:12 AM PST by onyx (CELEBRATE PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP'S VICTORY DONATE MONTHLY or JOIN CLUB 300!)
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