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To: Boogieman

No, you brought up a non sequitur to move away from the 1A, which we had been discussing. But your logic is still weak.

You say: “Rape and murder are illegal, so they aren’t given “wanton powers” such as that.”

Wait, no mention in the constitution, as you say, yet they are illegal?!? How can that be? Isn’t it unconstitutional to make laws against things not specifically mentioned, as you argue?

You say regarding the 4A: “Sure, from the government”. So the right to be secure only applies to gov’t?? No, it says only government ALONE can determine, with oath, warrant & probable cause when to violate that RIGHT. IOW, the local housing authority, the Mafia, the Elks Club or your next door neighbors cannot do so in any circumstances.


160 posted on 11/30/2016 10:02:03 AM PST by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: pissant

“No, you brought up a non sequitur to move away from the 1A”

Applying your logic consistently (to show its absurdity) is not a non sequitur. It doesn’t seem like you even know what a non sequitur is from the way you are trying to use the term here.

“Wait, no mention in the constitution, as you say, yet they are illegal?”

Certainly. Now you are going to argue that everything that is illegal must be mentioned in the Constitution? That’s a whole new level of absurdity from you.

“Isn’t it unconstitutional to make laws against things not specifically mentioned, as you argue?”

No, it was YOUR argument that only rights that are specifically mentioned in the Constitution are protected (which of course would make the 10th amendment meaningless if it were true). I simply applied YOUR logic to other rights in order to show the absurdity of your thinking. Either way, rights and criminal laws are different subjects, if you want to conflate them, it is just going to make it that much easier to destroy your argument.

“You say regarding the 4A: “Sure, from the government”. So the right to be secure only applies to gov’t??”

The entire Bill of Rights only applies to the government. It is a list of things that the government is constrained from doing, not a list of things that private citizens are constrained from doing. Things that private citizens are constrained from doing would be “criminal laws”, which are not contained in the Constitution at all.

Pissant, you are old enough to have had to take a civics class before you graduated school. How is it that you are so confused about this stuff?


161 posted on 11/30/2016 10:18:28 AM PST by Boogieman
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