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To: NobleFree

But that is how a lot of those guys start out.


16 posted on 11/28/2016 2:54:13 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Far better that Americans be starting out in those positions and get the crucial start to build their careers and families, and start companies. Right now the H1B and L! are being used to displace American workers which makes it impossible to even get on the career ladder. No other country in the world is so stupid to disfavor their own workforce. Pleas about “building wealth” for the country in the abstract are meaningless when they don’t translate into higher wages and opportunities for Americans who built this country into a technological power in the first place. The USA had no H1B during the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s when the real innovations were happening in the computer industry— that was almost all homegrown talent. The H1B has caused America to slit its own throat.


18 posted on 11/28/2016 3:05:55 PM PST by Javeth
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To: 9YearLurker

And I’d add that the lack of good starting position jobs for American graduates, and layoffs of older workers, are major contributors to the higher death rate and drastically falling birth rate of native born Americans in the past decade. Tech workers who’ve put years into their training can’t get jobs and pay off their student debt, so they can’t start families. It’s stealth genocide of the native-born American population in effect.


19 posted on 11/28/2016 3:07:28 PM PST by Javeth
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To: 9YearLurker

I used to teach computer networking and programming at a reputable university. The courses I taught were for high-end vendor certification, like MCSE, MCSD, CCNA, etc. Of all the course I taught, I loved the entry level classes best. They’re fun and you can actually see the light bulbs go on over people’s heads and that’s the best feeling a real teacher can have.

Over the years, enrollments have falling sharply until now, which has completely dried up. Zilch this month for enrollments, 2 last month, zero in September. 10 total this spring and summer. I am now just doing part-time training when classes have at least 5 enrollments.

Nobody is seeking these jobs because if they do not have the experience, they don’t get hired, even with a good entry level cert like A+, Network+ etc. What’s the point to study hard and learn when you can’t get hired if you don’t already have a job?

However, I hear from all the many people I know (I run several 500+ user groups) that jobs are being filled.

By H1Bs.

Companies do not want American IT workers in entry level positions.


27 posted on 11/28/2016 3:47:58 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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