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Trump terrifies public school advocates with education secretary pick
Washington Post ^ | November 23, 2016 | Valerie Strauss

Posted on 11/23/2016 9:01:23 PM PST by kevcol

Advocates of public education in the United States have worried that President-elect Donald Trump would tap an education secretary who would speed up the privatization of public schools, a move that many fear could destroy America’s public education system, the country’s most important civic institution. Well, they were right about the appointment — and then some.
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Seen by her supporters as a tireless, driven supporter of school choice, opponents say she is the most ideological and anti-public education nominee ever to be put forward to run the the nearly 40-year-old department.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: betsydevos; cabinet; devos; education; educationsecretary; publicschools; trump; trumpcabinet; trumpeducation; trumptransition; trumpwinsagain
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To: kevcol
Trump looks more presidential at his golf club than Obama ever looked at the White House.


41 posted on 11/23/2016 10:03:59 PM PST by AZLiberty (A is no longer A, but a pull-down menu.)
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To: Shortstop7

The nominee favors standards.


42 posted on 11/23/2016 10:04:28 PM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors!)
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To: magna carta

Government schools( “public schools”)have been hijacked by the far left (communists). What government schools teach is communism.

Socialism/communism or government control doesn’t work.

Government doesn’t work. You can actually learn useful job skills on youtube. You send your kids to public Schools they are turned into leftists/communists and don’t learn anything that is real.

Glad Trump will fix this too.


43 posted on 11/23/2016 10:06:04 PM PST by Democrat_media (President Trump has to change the 1965 immigration act so he can get a 2nd term)
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To: kevcol

Well, if the Post dislikes her enough to put up such a ridiculous scare headline, then she’s probably pretty good. You’d think from the way the left talked we actually had a good, efficient, successful public school system in this nation…


44 posted on 11/23/2016 10:06:32 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: bray
If you have 30 good students and you put 1 or 2 kids in that are not very good, they will be influenced by the good ones, and they will improve. Especially if they have involved parents that made an effort to get them into those schools.

But if you put 8 or 9 in there, they start changing the culture of the school. And the easier you make it to put kids in there, the less effort parents have to make, and you start getting more of the less motivated parents, who think this is a quick fix ("Oh, just put them in private school. They'll take care of everything!")

Now add vouchers that make it tempting for private schools to drop a lot of hardline discipline policies in order to keep the warm bodies there (and the money it brings.) Look, I'm not trying to stop this process. It's going to happen. I'm just telling you, I've already seen this in my area. There's nothing magic about private schools. They just are able to keep the worse students out. If they become greedy for voucher money, that will vanish, that's all.

45 posted on 11/23/2016 10:07:41 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: LouieFisk
“The founders of the labor movement viewed unions as a vehicle to get workers more of the profits they help create. Government workers, however, don’t generate profits. They merely negotiate for more tax money. When government unions strike, they strike against taxpayers. F.D.R. considered this “unthinkable and intolerable.”

Super! Trump can quote FDR as he closes down the federal employee unions. Democrats were always complaining about Republican threats to "shut down the government". Unions have had that knife at our throats for six decades.

With 90 million people out of work, Trump shouldn't have any trouble replacing the people who don't want to work under the new rules.

46 posted on 11/23/2016 10:09:41 PM PST by AZLiberty (A is no longer A, but a pull-down menu.)
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To: magna carta

http://deliberatedumbingdown.com


47 posted on 11/23/2016 10:09:43 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

NO!!! stop spreading that story.


48 posted on 11/23/2016 10:10:06 PM PST by CyberAnt (Peace through Strength)
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To: GoldenState_Rose
Again, you don't understand that the biggest influence on kids is.... other kids. Once the balance of Good Kids-Rough Kids shifts to a certain tipping point, the whole thing goes over.

It's kind of like what we always say about Muslims. You have a tiny percentage of them in a Western culture, they behave themselves. You get a few more, they start throwing their weight around. You get a few more, they start taking over.

49 posted on 11/23/2016 10:10:32 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Degaston
“Department of Teachers Unions Swamp Sustenance”

Brings new meaning to the phrase "wetlands protection".

50 posted on 11/23/2016 10:10:49 PM PST by AZLiberty (A is no longer A, but a pull-down menu.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Hey, knock off the lies jackass! AHole


51 posted on 11/23/2016 10:11:06 PM PST by Az Joe (11-8-2016-----We're still here President Reagan!!)
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To: Democrat_media

School Choice means unelected school boards-that is about as leftist as it gets.


52 posted on 11/23/2016 10:19:16 PM PST by magna carta
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Typo or something in that title. It should read:

Trump terrifies public school leftist propagandists with education secretary pick.


53 posted on 11/23/2016 10:19:35 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Democrat_media

“Democrat FDR was a communist”
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Yup, them thar durn commies is everywhere, I tell yew wut. Caught myself one of ‘em a tryin to steal watermelons outta my truckpatch. They’s lazy and and no count, I says.


54 posted on 11/23/2016 10:22:11 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: AZLiberty

“Super! Trump can quote FDR as he closes down the federal employee unions.”
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Eyup. Reagan sure kicked some butt when the Air Traffic Contollers Union thought it was a good idea to strike.


55 posted on 11/23/2016 10:25:13 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: magna carta
Socialism doesn't work.Government schools are a government monopoly.Goverment monopoly = socialism.

You do realize that you need competition and free market principles for anything to work ? Do you have an IQ above 10?

How did a socialist get on a forum like this? Socialism can never work. government control can never work . Government monopolies can never work .That should be obvious to a 5 year old child .

You can't be this dumb . You are brainwashed by the media or an imbecile

56 posted on 11/23/2016 10:26:02 PM PST by Democrat_media (President Trump has to change the 1965 immigration act so he can get a 2nd term)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Private schools will end up costing more IMO. Public schools may need to be redefined / revised as to their curricullum and operations and ensure that they do not become Communist indoctrination camps again. Remove the teacher’s unions and associations that created the problem protesters that were usurped and turned against us. Spending is out of control in schools as well. When you have stadiums that have $1M scoreboards and a laptop for every student I think you are going overboard and overtaxing the taxpayers (IMO). When you have coaches that get huge bonuses for getting their scholarship players to go to certain schools you have a problem.

Education is an important aspect of keeping our culture and society “normal” (not what it is now) beause our children are at the schools about 8 hours of the day. And there are so many areas where the school systems could be overhauled to make them more efficient and less costly. Also a low-tolerance punshment system would help those kids stay in line later in life as well (when they deserve it). I think the lack of punishment for children who misbehave in class and the home has had very negative consequences over time and we are seeing the fruits of Satan’s work because of it.


57 posted on 11/23/2016 10:27:50 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: LouieFisk
Capitalism is private ownership.

FDR's new deal is socialism/communism , SSI is government control and redistribution. Where in the Constitution are all of FDR's socialist centralized federal programs allowed?

Learn to read first I think. then read the constitution and basic definitions of socialism communism and capitalism.

58 posted on 11/23/2016 10:29:48 PM PST by Democrat_media (President Trump has to change the 1965 immigration act so he can get a 2nd term)
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To: jsanders2001
Also a low-tolerance punshment system would help those kids stay in line later in life as well (when they deserve it). I think the lack of punishment for children who misbehave in class and the home has had very negative consequences over time

This is the real problem. I'm not fond of unions, but they are the one thing that keeps society from just blaming the teachers and keeping up a revolving door of college kids coming in, teaching for 3 years, getting scapegoated, fired, and replaced with newer, even cheaper 22 year olds. Without unions, that's what you'll get, because it's the easiest path. Parents won't take responsibility. Administrators won't. Teachers are the easiest target. We're the soldiers on the frontlines, the most expendable. Cannon fodder.

59 posted on 11/23/2016 10:33:02 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: magna carta
School Choice means unelected school boards-that is about as leftist as it gets.

I don't know about that. If you don't like that school board..."chose" another school.

60 posted on 11/23/2016 10:33:30 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs)
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