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Roger Stone makes the case against LBJ
Roger Stone ^ | Dec 2, 2014 | Roger Stone

Posted on 11/21/2016 7:22:51 AM PST by fishtank

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To: fishtank

Aside from getting worse, some things never change, when it comes to Democrats.


21 posted on 11/21/2016 8:49:45 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: BeadCounter

Oswald almost certainly did the shooting, but the real question is, did he decide to do it on his own, or was he ordered to do it by someone?

There is a lot of evidence in Oswald’s life that point to him being some sort of intelligence asset, for somebody. His defection and return from Russia, the CIA debriefing after his return that the CIA tried to make disappear, and the CIA covering up his trip to Mexico City, are all very suspicious. Then there were his “pro-Castro” activities in New Orleans, run out of the same building as a CIA asset, and his unknown source of income for the years leading up to the assassination.


22 posted on 11/21/2016 8:58:02 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: BeadCounter

Nixon was definitely in Dallas the day before. That’s not theory.

The New York Times mentioned it in an issue dated November 22, 1963, the day of the assassination.

This was back when the printing presses took a lot of time to be set up, so the NYT would have needed a time machine or clairvoyance to connect Nixon with the assassination at that point. In other words, the item about Nixon on the NYT back page was not intended by the paper to be related at all. It was simple fact.

I hadn’t heard about Bush the Elder, but a little bit of research shows a Dallas Morning News clipping showing he was scheduled to speak in Dallas as president of Zapata Off-Shore Co. the day before JFK was killed. It’s not really unusual for a high-ranking Texas oil man to be in Dallas.


23 posted on 11/21/2016 8:58:37 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: Hawthorn

Ha! I wish.

Don’t you remember all the Sandy Hook, Waco Biker shooting, and Pizzagate conspiracy theory threads? I don’t remember any of them being deleted by mods.


24 posted on 11/21/2016 9:01:05 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: IndyTiger



ALSO

The fingerprint that didn't belong.


25 posted on 11/21/2016 9:08:29 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: Hawthorn

Not if it appeared in the mainstream media which the article I had did, appearing in the New York Post or Daily News and in the Daily Mail.

Use a keyword “JFK” and see what comes up, a lot of conspiracy threads I’d say.

Now, post #1 here sort of stands alone at that.

There have been many discussions on the JFK assassination, some believing in the lone gunman, others conspiracy.

Soros, so-called Clinton dead pool; it seems all of those are more conspiracies.

Conspiracy, more than one person acting.


26 posted on 11/21/2016 9:11:34 AM PST by BeadCounter ( Drain The Swamp!)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
LBJ KILLED his OWN sister???? OMG!! Never heard that before!!

LBJ and Lady Bird are the ONLY people that profited by JFK's death. I THINK that JFK was going to replace LBJ for the next election.

27 posted on 11/21/2016 9:15:16 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: angryoldfatman

This webpage has a copy of the same photo you posted here.

https://theunredacted.com/assassination-of-jfk-conspiracy-in-dallas/

Thanks!


28 posted on 11/21/2016 9:18:05 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: mlo

Please tell us all where it was debunked.


29 posted on 11/21/2016 9:19:01 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

I don’t know if it was debunked straightforward but it is a bit flakey to me that this “mistress”, Madeline I think her name is, didn’t ever say things about this until 1989 or so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Duncan_Brown

There’s so many people with stories that they can’t all be true. There’s the woman who claims she was LHO’s girlfriend in New Orleans.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/judyth.htm

John McAdams, defender of the Warren Commission, anti-Conspiracy website: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/

JFK assassination forums are on the web too for those really interested: http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=e88b942c81cd789a41b9263e901ef24b;www


30 posted on 11/21/2016 9:34:23 AM PST by BeadCounter ( Drain The Swamp!)
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To: Ann Archy

You can start with this: http://www.dallasnews.com/news/news/2012/11/17/one-man-truth-squad-still-debunking-jfk-conspiracy-theories


31 posted on 11/21/2016 9:57:11 AM PST by mlo
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To: IndyTiger

I stood in the window before it was glassed off and my stomach turned realizing it’s an impossible shot unless he had crawled out onto the ledge or was at another window. I went there believing Oswald had done it but came away knowing he didn’t.

In my heart of hearts, which means nothing, I don’t believe LBJ had anything to do with it. Remember, TX Gov. and Mrs. Connally were in the car. He was best friends with Johnson and she was best friends with Lady Bird. Would he risk them being killed? Would he risk having the wrath of his wife come down on him? Connally was being groomed for bigger and better things. He later became Sec of Treasury and about 20 years later switched parties to run for POTUS on the GOP ticket. The Johnsons and the Connallys bought homes across from each other and were constantly visiting back and forth on the weekends. It’s highly doubtful Mrs. Connally would allow LBJ to eat at her table or let her grandkids go over to the Johnsons’ if they’d come this close to being killed by a plot involving LBJ. I know this because we lived nearby. The Johnsons and the Connallys were best friends until the day they died of natural causes.


32 posted on 11/21/2016 10:45:18 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Ann Archy

LBJ was getting bounced from the ticket in `64 because of the Bobby Baker scandal and the Billy Sol Estes scandal. Mike Mansfield of Missouri was going to be his replacement. In fact, on 11/22/63 Baker was testifying in a congressional hearing. LBJ was facing the potential of criminal charges under both scandals. His career was DOA until the afternoon JFK arrived at Parkland DOA.


33 posted on 11/21/2016 12:16:22 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Somewhere Jeb weeps.)
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To: angryoldfatman

The Mac Wallace fingerprint at the sniper’s nest in the TSBD is real evidence. It merits it a higher value and credibility than most of the confusing mass of speculation and argument that swirls about the JFK assassination. No doubt the match was made at the time by the FBI but suppressed because Mac Wallace could be tied to LBJ and various political murders and other crimes that benefitted LBJ.


34 posted on 11/21/2016 1:02:17 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Not Mike Mansfield, Stuart Symington. Symington was JFK’s initial choice for VP in 1960.


35 posted on 11/21/2016 4:16:26 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: angryoldfatman

“Nixon was definitely in Dallas the day before. That’s not theory.

The New York Times mentioned it in an issue dated November 22, 1963, the day of the assassination.

This was back when the printing presses took a lot of time to be set up, so the NYT would have needed a time machine or clairvoyance to connect Nixon with the assassination at that point. In other words, the item about Nixon on the NYT back page was not intended by the paper to be related at all. It was simple fact.

I hadn’t heard about Bush the Elder, but a little bit of research shows a Dallas Morning News clipping showing he was scheduled to speak in Dallas as president of Zapata Off-Shore Co. the day before JFK was killed. It’s not really unusual for a high-ranking Texas oil man to be in Dallas.”

It might be odd for a high-ranking Texas oil man to not remember where they were though. I think most of us remember where we were when we heard about 911 for example. GHWB apparently had to reminded where he was.


36 posted on 11/22/2016 5:43:15 AM PST by BeadCounter ( Drain The Swamp!)
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To: mlo
With all the theories all one has to do is examine Oswald's path.

It has too many holes in it no matter how you look at it.

The case against Oswald is reasonable IF you take the Warren Commission conclusions.

However, when you look at how the Warren Commission was spoon fed material and not given other material then you can begin to see how the FBI, CIA NSA, ONI, SS and many others destroyed vital evidence.

So, yes, the Warren Report worked with the information they had and in retrospect, they were given “scrubbed” material.

37 posted on 11/22/2016 5:49:29 AM PST by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: BeadCounter

It might be odd for a high-ranking Texas oil man to not remember where they were though. I think most of us remember where we were when we heard about 911 for example. GHWB apparently had to reminded where he was.

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I know there is a newspaper clipping of Nixon, showing him in shock after getting off the plane from Dallas, which is very different than the story he told in his memoirs about when he learned JFK had been assassinated.

http://onepercenttakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/nixon_watergate1.jpg

Kind of strange for “the day when we all remember where we were when we heard” (I hadn’t been born yet, BTW).

For my research purposes, could you show me or tell me where GHWB had to be reminded?

For the record, I have to use verifiable sources when I converse with the lone-assassin types. The bullet line-up, for instance, is photographic evidence straight from the Warren Commission, so they can’t deny that without some sort of delusional pretzels of logic.


38 posted on 11/22/2016 7:51:12 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: fishtank

Here’s a very pointed, concise speech from Roger Stone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DejQtJXQyAc

Very clear, very articulate, very feasible, nothing like the tinfoil hat craziness from the likes of Alex Jones, Jesse Ventura, or Jim Fetzer.

You can see the similarities between LBJ and Hillary as he’s speaking, if you’ve read or seen any of the fairly comprehensive sources on her corruption.


39 posted on 11/22/2016 8:52:12 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: Netz
"So, yes, the Warren Report worked with the information they had and in retrospect, they were given “scrubbed” material."

There is no information showing that anyone other than Oswald did it, whether the Warren Commission had it or not.

40 posted on 11/22/2016 9:39:13 AM PST by mlo
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