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Calif. Sen. to Introduce Bill to Eliminate Electoral College
NBC Bay Area ^ | 11/15 | Jessica Rice

Posted on 11/15/2016 11:37:14 AM PST by nickcarraway

"This is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and still lose the presidency," Boxer said in a statement

U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) is slated to introduce legislation Tuesday which would eliminate the Electoral College, so presidential elections would be decided by the popular vote.

Boxer is expected to introduce the bill when the Senate comes into session Tuesday.

This move is in response to Donald Trump's presidential victory last week. The president-elect won the presidency through the Electoral College, although Hillary Clinton is leading the popular vote by nearly a million votes, a statement from Boxer's office read.

Trump won the presidency by securing at least 306 Electoral College votes while Hillary Clinton recieved 228 with two states still left to call, according to NBC News.

"When all the ballots are counted, Hillary Clinton will have won the popular vote by a margin that could exceed two million votes, and she is on track to have received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history except Barack Obama," Boxer said.

Trump will be the fifth president in U.S. history to win the election despite losing the popular vote.

"This is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and still lose the presidency," Boxer said in a statement. "The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society, and it needs to change immediately. Every American should be guaranteed that their vote counts."

Four years ago, Trump called the Electoral College "a disaster for a democracy," in a tweet sent on Nov. 6, 2012.

Yet Tuesday morning, the president-elect sent two tweets conveying his support for the Electoral College.

"If the election were based on total popular vote I would have campaigned in N.Y. Florida and California and won even bigger and more easily," he said.

In a follow up tweet he said: "The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!"

If Boxer's amendment were to pass, it would amend the U.S. Constitution, and "would take effect when ratified by three-fourths of states within seven years after its passage in the U.S. Congress," a statement from Boxer's office read.

Source: Calif. Sen. to Introduce Bill to Eliminate Electoral College | NBC Bay Area er | NBCBayArea on Facebook


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: California
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To: nickcarraway

Did any of these people ever take a civics course?


61 posted on 11/15/2016 11:56:47 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: nickcarraway

I say Donald J Trump would have won the election anyway because he would have campaigned in a far different manner in order to win the popular vote. Instead of concentrating on certain States, he could have concentrated on higher populated areas.


62 posted on 11/15/2016 11:57:12 AM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: Tenacious 1

Even if it passed, you would still need 38 state legislatures to validate. How many states did Hillary win again?


63 posted on 11/15/2016 11:57:15 AM PST by jimjohn (This battle is over, but the war to rebuild the America has just begun.)
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To: nickcarraway

In a follow up tweet he said: “The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!”

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He’s right, but on 60 minutes he said he was for eliminating it. I hope this means someone changed his mind.


64 posted on 11/15/2016 11:57:16 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: nickcarraway
"This is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and still lose the presidency," Boxer said in a statement

No it's not. The Vice President is elected the same way...

65 posted on 11/15/2016 11:57:47 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: nickcarraway

I could explain this to Bimbo Boxer but no doubt she is trying to stuff the will of Kalifornia down all our throats. Without the massive vote of her state Trump handily wins the popular election too. And just how many of that Kalifornia landslide would we find to be illegals? I am thanking God that my Founding Fathers created the Electoral College to prevent the overblown population centers in one state from ruling the entire country.

Now, we need to repeal the 17th Amendment which is also causing an unfair balance in the Senate.


66 posted on 11/15/2016 11:58:49 AM PST by Wneighbor (Deplorable. And we win!)
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To: vikingd00d
Just have California and New York allocate EVs according to congressional district like Maine and Nebraska do.

I'd be in favor of that everywhere. Talk about "power to the people". Imagine if your little congressional district in your little town actually had a one electoral vote say in who would be president.

I suppose the only argument against it would be that the president and house of reps would RARELY be from opposing parties. Not impossible though, as the two senator votes would be awarded to the overall popular vote winner.
67 posted on 11/15/2016 11:59:15 AM PST by mmichaels1970 (Hillary lied over four coffins.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The electoral college was brilliant innovation of our founders, insuring that small states would still get a voice in the election.

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Yes, it’s integral with state’s rights and federalism I think. If we go to the popular vote it will make it that much easier for the crooked politicians to keep flooding the country with idiots and government dependents who will never hold the government accountable.


68 posted on 11/15/2016 12:00:23 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: nickcarraway

This the state where the majority would allow all 120 million Mexican cittiens to vote as a result of erasing the border, while at the same time they want to succeed from the US, meaning ironicaly they want a border between them and the rest of the US. In summary, they think the people of mexico should decide US election , and California should be anexed to mexico .


69 posted on 11/15/2016 12:00:24 PM PST by seastay
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To: nickcarraway

DOA. Won’t get out of the House, more or less ratified by 3/4 of the states when the Republicans hold 68 or so of the 99 state legislatures.


70 posted on 11/15/2016 12:00:37 PM PST by NYRepublican72 (Radical Islamic terrorist Omar Mateen is "Ready for Hillary!" Are you too?)
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To: nickcarraway
She wants to pass an amendment to get rid of the electoral college.

I want the 16th and 17th Amendments to be repealed.

I’m betting neither of us is going to get what we want.

71 posted on 11/15/2016 12:00:48 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Texas Eagle

Well said!


72 posted on 11/15/2016 12:01:12 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: ladyjane

Civics courses are considered subversive in CA.


73 posted on 11/15/2016 12:02:51 PM PST by Strac6 (Sig Sauer, Pilatus, Mrs. Strac... all the fun things in my life are Swiss)
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To: nickcarraway

“This is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and still lose the presidency,” Boxer said in a statement

And this is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and win the presidency.

Cos in all the other races you’re not running for President in the first place. So you’re not going to win the presidency or lose it either.

My English teacher would have spilled a whole red pen on that sentence.


74 posted on 11/15/2016 12:02:53 PM PST by edwinland
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Imagine if we would have not passed the 17th AMendment and the State Legislatures chose their Senators.

If 2 state senators careers were based on their representative State Government, things would be a LOT different. As soon as Senators are elected, they become the property of the Washington DC Party Elite. They become subservient to their Federal Masters. They only entertain their constituents for the purpose of the next election. Very few of them even review or familiarize themselves with the legislation they vote for. If they had to answer to the state that appointed them, they would behave much differently. AND they would not give a twit about the federal government, only their own State’s interests. AND they would likely be replaced more regularly.

Why don’t we go the other direction and repeal the 17th amendment and introduce term limits. While we are at it, we can pass an amendment that requires the Federal budget to be balanced to the GDP.

Great IDEA, Barb!


75 posted on 11/15/2016 12:03:35 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: nickcarraway
Thruout the campaign, the left was crowing and cooing over a Canky Electoral College landslide. And this is the result?

If today’s general election polling holds true, Hillary Clinton will easily defeat Donald Trump.


76 posted on 11/15/2016 12:04:11 PM PST by C210N
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To: Moonman62; All
Yes, it’s integral with state’s rights and federalism I think

It is. Wouldn't it be cool if more states based their gubernatorial elections on the same premise? Where state legislative districts would also cast one electoral vote for governor? That would allow rural communities to have more equal say with the three or four big-city state population centers and would ensure executive government at the state level represented all people from all walks of life.
77 posted on 11/15/2016 12:04:38 PM PST by mmichaels1970 (Hillary lied over four coffins.)
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To: Spaghetti Man; All

I find it puzzling to see after elections the stats on who and how certain segments of the population has voted!
WE hear White males, White females, Black males, Black females , Latinos male and female, Gays, Christians, Jews , Protestants and etc!
I want to see the stats on Dead people, Illegal males, Illegal females, Non American Citizens. The UNKNOWN voters!!!


78 posted on 11/15/2016 12:08:08 PM PST by GOYAKLA ( Pick-up the pace, I'm eighty-one!)
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To: Tenacious 1

No doubt the 17th has been bad for the country.
I would support its repeal.


79 posted on 11/15/2016 12:09:28 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: revivaljoe

A constitutional convention is not required in order to introduce a constitutional amendment. It is ONE of the methods by which an amendment may be introduced, but amendments can also be proposed by a 2/3 majority of both houses of congress.

In any event, adoption of a constitutional amendment requires either 1) ratification by 3/4 of the state legislatures, or 2) ratification by conventions in 3/4 of the states “...as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by Congress”.


80 posted on 11/15/2016 12:10:32 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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