Should the electoral college be abolished?

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[gogeo]

“Outdated” is not an argument.

[Mark was here]

I was thinking that if voters approve new taxes, the tax should be equally divided among all the registered voters.

[gogeo]

The EC acts as a firewall for election fraud.

Regardless of how many illegals vote in CA, for example, it counts for no more than 50%+1.

In fact, if there's anything that needs to be changed, it's the practice of counting illegals in the census for the purpose of apportioning representation.

[Rashputin]

No. And the 17th Amendment has to be repealed, too.

Then maybe we can fight our way back to what the Founding Fathers established and left for us.

[cynwoody]

OK, Professor. Let's compromise.

Do away with the electors and tally the vote by congressional district. The winner of a state's CDs gets the state's two extra votes, except in the case of a tie in CDs, in which case the winner of the state's popular vote gets its extra votes.

Such a system offers four advantages:

1. No electors, hence no faithless electors.
2. Recounts would be limited to close CDs.
3. Fraud would be firewalled to the CDs in which it occurs. Stealing a CD only steals the CD. Excess stolen votes don't contribute further to stealing the state.
4. Urban cesspools in such states as NY, IL, and CA would have their influence contained.

If we go by the way California's House races turned out, Trump probably carried 15 of California's 53 CDs and would have received 15 of its 55 electoral votes.

California's House races 2016
The green one up north went D. The green one by San Diego went R (Darrel Issa's district)

[trisham]

No. God gave us the Founding Fathers and brought us to this country for a reason. We were blessed with a miraculous opportunity then and would be fools to throw it all away now out of arrogance and stupidity.

[motor_racer]

I think that we need a law stating that no person, who wishes to engage in any activity whatsoever, may be required to present more identification than that which is required to vote.

[bigredkitty1]

Not just no, but heck no.

[Redleg Duke]

No! We need to rescind the 17th Amendment! Give the states representation in the political process, as the Founding Fathers intended.

[Verginius Rufus]

Maybe they should give each state ten times the number of electors they now have, but require the electors to be divided as evenly as possible in accordance with the popular vote in that state.

That would confine the harm done by voter fraud to the state it occurs in, rather than possibly changing the outcome of the election.

[Verginius Rufus]

Maybe they should give each state ten times the number of electors they now have, but require the electors to be divided as evenly as possible in accordance with the popular vote in that state.

That would confine the harm done by voter fraud to the state it occurs in, rather than possibly changing the outcome of the election.

[Labyrinthos]

Sociology: Simple things made complicated by people with way too much time on their hands.

[Albion Wilde]

Hell, no.

[Mollypitcher1]

Remind them this is a REPUBLIC, not a mob ruled Democracy.

[Luke21]

They didn’t care four years ago.

[depressed in 06]

The Bolshies can abolished the Electoral College when they win it, and, can prove that dead people and illegals have not voted, at which point, I doubt it will be necessary.

[clearcarbon]

It appears that the Electoral College has become a last line of defense against institutionalized election fraud.

[windsorknot]

O-nay Ay-way.

[Gene Eric]

How about one county, one vote?

[Sgt_Schultze]

Could you imagine the ridiculous government that would be constructed by the “brightest” progressives in the country? How crazy a country would that be?